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    Default I knocked (on) the door for three minutes before (until) someone answered it.

    I knocked on the door for five minutes until someone answered it.

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    Two questions if I am allowed to ask.

    1---- Is the 'on' optional?
    2---- Can the 'until' be replaced with 'before'?

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    Default Re: I knocked (on) the door for three minutes before (until) someone answered it.

    Quote Originally Posted by LiuJing View Post
    I knocked on the door for five minutes until someone answered it.

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    Two questions if I am allowed to ask.

    1---- Is the 'on' optional? No.
    2---- Can the 'until' be replaced with 'before'? Yes, and I actually prefer "before" when used with the time frame. See more info below.

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    My basic responses are above in red. With #2, as I said, I prefer "before" when used with "for five minutes".

    I knocked on the door for five minutes before someone answered.
    I knocked on the door until someone answered.
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Default Re: I knocked (on) the door for three minutes before (until) someone answered it.

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    My basic responses are above in red. With #2, as I said, I prefer "before" when used with "for five minutes".

    I knocked on the door for five minutes before someone answered.
    I knocked on the door until someone answered.
    Thank you for the distinctive explanation, and I've noticed you used 'answer' rather than 'answer it'. Does it mean my version 'answer it' sounds a bit strange and unnatural?

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    Default Re: I knocked (on) the door for three minutes before (until) someone answered it.

    Quote Originally Posted by LiuJing View Post
    Thank you for the distinctive explanation, and I've noticed you used 'answer' rather than 'answer it'. Does it mean my version 'answer it' sounds a bit strange and unnatural?
    It's not strange or unnatural, it's just unnecessary. You've already said that you were knocking on the door. It's clear that the door is what someone answered.
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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