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    Are these correct:

    1-I have spent five years in London. Three years from 1995 to 1998 and then two years since 2010.

    2-I have lived for five years in London. Three years from 1995 to 1998 and then two years since 2010.

    3-I have spent five years in London. Three years from 1995 to 1998 and then two years from 2000 to 2002.

    4-I have lived for five years in London. Three years from 1995 to 1998 and then two years from 2000 to 2002.

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    Quote Originally Posted by navi tasan View Post
    Are these correct:

    1-I have spent five years in London. Three years from 1995 to 1998 and then two years since 2010.

    2-I have lived for five years in London. Three years from 1995 to 1998 and then two years since 2010.

    3-I have spent five years in London. Three years from 1995 to 1998 and then two years from 2000 to 2002.

    4-I have lived for five years in London. Three years from 1995 to 1998 and then two years from 2000 to 2002.

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    Navi.
    Your only two distinct full sentences here are, of course, grammatical; the rest are sentence fragments, concerning which you presumably do not require any comment.

    I wonder if, rather than simply 'correct', you do not actually mean 'semantically appropriate in the given context'...

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    Thank you very much Philo2009,

    I just wanted to see if the present perfect tense worked in these contexts. In any case, if they are not 'semantically appropriate" how could the idea be expressed in an apporpriate manner. Are the sentences and the sentence fragments unnatural in any way or could they occur in normal conversation?

    Gratefully,
    Navi.

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    1-I have spent five years in London. Three years from 1995 to 1998 and then two years since 2010.
    I have spent a total of five years in London.
    2-I have lived for five years in London. Three years from 1995 to 1998 and then two years since 2010.
    I have lived for a total of five years in London.

    3-I have spent five years in London. Three years from 1995 to 1998 and then two years from 2000 to 2002.

    I (have) spent a total of five years in London.
    4-I have lived for five years in London. Three years from 1995 to 1998 and then two years from 2000 to 2002.
    I (have) lived for a total of five years in London.

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    Quote Originally Posted by navi tasan View Post
    Thank you very much Philo2009,

    I just wanted to see if the present perfect tense worked in these contexts. In any case, if they are not 'semantically appropriate" how could the idea be expressed in an apporpriate manner. Are the sentences and the sentence fragments unnatural in any way or could they occur in normal conversation?

    Gratefully,
    Navi.
    I suspect that we could 'cut to the chase' here by pointing out that a present perfect VP modifed by a for-phrase, depending on sense/context, can refer to a period that either does, or else does not, continue up to and include the present moment of utterance.

    Hence, e.g. "I have lived in Tokyo for three years" does not necessarily imply that I still live there at the time of speaking, (although, in the absence of contextual indications to the contrary, that is almost certainly the way in which it would most naturally be construed).

    Does that resolve your query?

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    Thank you very much 5jj and Philo2009.

    Yes Philo, your reply goes straight to the heart of the matter and solves the problem. Thanks again.


    Gratefully,
    Navi.

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