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    Default is the meaning of " in turn" similar to respectively in these sentences ?

    Dear teachers,

    Is the meaning of " in turn" similar to "respectively" these sentences ?


    The number of visitors to Portugal was twice as many as those who visited to Greece, at 500 and 250 in turn

    The number of visitors to Portugal was twice as many as those who visited to Greece, at 500 and 250 respectively

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    Default Re: is the meaning of " in turn" similar to respectively in these sentences ?

    Quote Originally Posted by duiter View Post
    Dear teachers,

    Is the meaning of " in turn" similar to "respectively" these sentences ?


    The number of visitors to Portugal was twice as many as those the number who visited to Greece, at 500 and 250 in turn

    The number of visitors to Portugal was twice as many as those the number who visited to Greece, at 500 and 250 respectively

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    No, "in turn" does not work here.

    Also, "the number of visitors was twice as many as those" is not natural. I have changed it to "the number of visitors to Portugal was twice the number ..."

    Also, note that after "visit" as a verb, we do not use "to" in this construction. (I visited Greece, he visited Portugal, they visited the beach.)
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    Default Re: is the meaning of " in turn" similar to respectively in these sentences ?

    Thanks a lot

    How about these sentences

    Toasted sandwiches and salads are not nearly popular, with just 25 and 18 sold in turn

    Toasted sandwiches and salads are not nearly popular, with just 25 and 18 sold respectively

    These sentences from IELTS book written by native speakers

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    Default Re: is the meaning of " in turn" similar to respectively in these sentences ?

    Quote Originally Posted by duiter View Post
    Thanks a lot.

    How about these sentences?

    Toasted sandwiches and salads are not nearly popular, with just 25 and 18 sold in turn.

    Toasted sandwiches and salads are not nearly popular, with just 25 and 18 sold respectively.

    These sentences from IELTS book written by native speakers.
    No, again!

    1) "Are not nearly popular" makes no sense. Perhaps they meant "are not really popular" or "are not nearly as popular [as something else]..."

    2) "In turn" suggests that the people selling the food sold one toasted sandwich, then a salad, then a sandwich, then a salad, then a sandwich etc etc. That is of course not just unlikely, but could not result in 25 of one being sold but only 18 of the other.

    The only word which makes sense there is "respectively". What is the name of this IELTS book and its author?

    Also, please remember to end all your sentences with the relevant punctuation mark, as I have shown in red above.
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    Default Re: is the meaning of " in turn" similar to respectively in these sentences ?

    Thanks a lot for your reply.

    I am terribly sorry the correct sentence is ...are not nearly as popular

    It is a book called IELTS Advantage written by 2 IELTS examiners.
    Ielts Advantage: Writing Skills: Richard Brown: 9781905085620: Amazon.com: Books

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ielts...91126747604338

    The first sentence from page 96, model answer: comparative graphs
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    Default Re: is the meaning of " in turn" similar to respectively in these sentences ?

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
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    Also, note that after "visit" as a verb, we do not use "to" in this construction. (I visited Greece, he visited Portugal, they visited the beach.)
    ...but if instead you use 'pay a visit', then 'to' does belong: 'visit the church'/'pay a visit to the church'.

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    Default Re: is the meaning of " in turn" similar to respectively in these sentences ?

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    ...but if instead you use 'pay a visit', then 'to' does belong: 'visit the church'/'pay a visit to the church'.

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    Yes, that's why I specified that we don't use "to" after using "visit" as a verb. In "pay a visit", "visit" is a noun.
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    Default Re: is the meaning of " in turn" similar to respectively in these sentences ?

    Quote Originally Posted by duiter View Post
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    I haven't time now to follow the link. But the quoted sentence does not make sense. Either there's some context I'm missing, or the writer has an unusual grasp of the meaning of 'in turn'.

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    Default Re: is the meaning of " in turn" similar to respectively in these sentences ?

    You don't have to follow a link in this case. If you simply click on the tiny version in the post, a bigger readable version appears in the middle of the screen, above this window. I can't see any missing context. I fear the writer just totally misunderstands how to use "in turn".
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    Default Re: is the meaning of " in turn" similar to respectively in these sentences ?

    Yes, I did that. As it's meaningless in that disembodied form I was being (excessively ? ) charitable and hoping that there might be something in the wider context to justify the aberration.

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