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    which is correct and what's the reason behind it?
    My Mom and I Went home
    My Mom & me went home

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    Quote Originally Posted by vijieu View Post
    which is correct and what's the reason behind it?
    My Mom and I Went home
    My Mom & me went home
    Hi vijieu
    Welcome to the forum.

    According to 'Practical English Usage, by Michael Swan', we often use object forms in double subjects in informal speech.
    John and me are going skiing.
    Me and the kids spent Sunday at the swimming pool.

    Good luck.
    Being a non-native teacher, I'm so thrilled being in such a superb forum.

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    Moonlike (and Swan) are right, but I recommend that you use the form that nobody considers sub-standard: X and I went home.
    Please do not edit your question after it has received a response. Such editing can make the response hard for others to understand.


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    *****NOT A TEACHER *****


    Hello, Vijieu:

    I have noticed that many young (and not so young) Americans say something such as:

    Me and my friend are going to a concert tomorrow.

    NOTES:

    1. Some people go up the wall ( = go crazy) when they hear such "horrible" English.

    2. It is not only wrong but also discourteous. You should mention your friend first. So although "Me and my

    friend" is horrible (in the opinion of many people), maybe it is a little less horrible if you say "My friend and me are

    going to a concert." At least, you are being courteous!

    3. As you know, you need the nominative case for subjects. Thus:

    My friend and I are going to a concert tomorrow.

    4. Of course, no native speakers would ever say, "Me went to a concert yesterday." But some of those native

    speakers have no problem with "Me and a friend went to a concert yesterday."

    5. I do not know the reason. Hopefully, another poster can explain when and how and why it started.

    6. The bottom line: In my (very) humble opinion, you should never, ever say/ write something like that. If you spoke

    or wrote something like that at a job interview, I do not think that you would get the job. To be quite blunt (super

    honest), people who speak like that are often considered to be poorly educated people.


    Sincerely yours,


    James

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    Quote Originally Posted by vijieu View Post
    which is correct and what's the reason behind it?
    My Mom and I Went home
    My Mom & me went home
    Also, with "My mom" you don't capitalize "mom." There, it's a generic noun. When you refer to her "Mom" (like "Alice" or "Mable") then you capitalize it.

    I went shopping with Mom. I went shopping with my mom. (Same with "I went shopping with Aunt Mable" or "I went shopping with my aunt.")
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    2. It is not only wrong but also discourteous. You should mention your friend first.
    I agree that the standard convention is to mention others before yourself, but I don't think many would regard failure to do this as discourteous. Some might consider it 'uneducated', though it's very common in informal conversation in BrE, and appears in print in magazines aimed at the 'less educated' market.

    The convention is something that many people have to learn at school; it doesn't come naturally to them, and many people ignore the convention outside the classroom.
    Please do not edit your question after it has received a response. Such editing can make the response hard for others to understand.


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