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    Default had better x would rather

    I'd rather go home.

    I'd better go home.

    Are example sentences above correct? If so, do they carry different meanings?

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    Default Re: had better x would rather

    Quote Originally Posted by tom3m View Post
    I'd rather go home.

    I'd better go home.

    Are example sentences above correct? If so, do they carry different meanings?
    Both sentences are correct but they do not mean the same thing.

    I'd rather go home = I would prefer to go home.
    I'd better go home = It would be a better choice for me go home OR I should go home OR I suppose I must go home.

    Note that in your title "x" doesn't mean anything. You can use "vs" as a short form of "versus", or you could have called the thread "had better and/or would rather".
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Default Re: had better x would rather

    Are my understandings of the following sentences correcct?

    Even though I'd rather go home and I'd better go home are both in the form of past tense, they still can be used in present situation.

    eg.

    Tomorrow, I'd rather to go home after the party.
    Tomorrow, I'd better to go home after the party.

    Thank you.

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    Default Re: had better x would rather

    Quote Originally Posted by Ju View Post
    Are my understandings of the following sentences correcct?

    Even though I'd rather go home and I'd better go home are both in the form of past tense, they still can be used in present situation.

    eg.

    Tomorrow, I'd rather to go home after the party.
    Tomorrow, I'd better to go home after the party.

    Thank you.
    They are not in past tense.
    "Tomorrow, I'd rather to go home after the party." "Tomorrow, I'd better to go home after the party."
    These are present tense referring to the future and they would be more natural with "tomorrow" at the end.

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    Default Re: had better x would rather





    Please note:


    "Had better"
    is often simply pronounced as "better" in spoken English.


    Source: ENGLISH PAGE - Had Better

    What does the underlined part mean?

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    Default Re: had better x would rather

    Quote Originally Posted by Odessa Dawn View Post
    What does the underlined part mean?
    NOT A TEACHER

    People sometimes leave out "had" or "'d". So you'll hear both "This better be good" and "This had better be good." The first one isn't grammatical, but it's common enough.

    Also compare:

    You'd better not go out tonight.
    You better not go out tonight.

    The weak form of "had" in "You'd" is so quiet that it is often not heard at all.
    Last edited by Chicken Sandwich; 17-Oct-2012 at 19:29. Reason: rewrite

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    Default Re: had better x would rather

    In the US, "I'd rather" is "I would rather" not "I had rather," at least in my experience. I tried to find a reputable site that told me that I was wrong or that I was right, and didn't get that far.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Default Re: had better x would rather

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    They are not in past tense.
    "Tomorrow, I'd rather to go home after the party." "Tomorrow, I'd better to go home after the party."
    These are present tense referring to the future and they would be more natural with "tomorrow" at the end.
    A rare occurrence - I do not agree with bhai. Technically, I'd (I had) [better] is past tense and, for many people, would is the past-tense form of will. Whatever you feel about would, neither would [rather] nor had [better] is a present-tense form.

    They are however, used for present-time preferences/suggestions.
    Please do not edit your question after it has received a response. Such editing can make the response hard for others to understand.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    In the US, "I'd rather" is "I would rather" not "I had rather," at least in my experience. I tried to find a reputable site that told me that I was wrong or that I was right, and didn't get that far.
    I can't find a credible source either, but judging from the books in which "had rather" is used, I'd say that "had rather" is rather old-fashioned/archaic. At least, that's what I gather from searching through Google Books.

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    Default Re: had better x would rather

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    In the US, "I'd rather" is "I would rather" not "I had rather,"
    It's the same in BrE.
    Please do not edit your question after it has received a response. Such editing can make the response hard for others to understand.


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