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    Default Should "SURFACE AND GROUNDWATER" be "SURFACE AND GROUND WATER"?

    The space behind "ground" is indispensable.

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    CHINA NEEDS TO BUILD AN INTEGRATED NETWORK TO MONITOR SURFACE AND GROUNDWATER.

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    Default Re: Should "SURFACE AND GROUNDWATER" be "SURFACE AND GROUND WATER"?

    Hi,

    As fas as I can see, no, it isn't.

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    PS: We're not deaf, so quit shouting, please.
    Last edited by charliedeut; 27-Sep-2012 at 15:04.
    Please be aware that I'm neither a native English speaker nor a teacher.

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    Default Re: Should "SURFACE AND GROUNDWATER" be "SURFACE AND GROUND WATER"?

    Quote Originally Posted by NewHopeR View Post
    The space behind "ground" is indispensable.
    It isn't and would be wrong IMO.

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    Default Re: Should "SURFACE AND GROUNDWATER" be "SURFACE AND GROUND WATER"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    It isn't and would be wrong IMO.

    So what does "surface" mean here? Can it mean "surface water"? The author intends to express "surface water and ground water." To make it concise, we take out the first water.

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    Default Re: Should "SURFACE AND GROUNDWATER" be "SURFACE AND GROUND WATER"?

    Quote Originally Posted by NewHopeR View Post
    So what does "surface" mean here? Can it mean "surface water"? The author intends to express "surface water and ground water." To make it concise, we take out the first water.
    Yes indeed. In order to avoid repetition, "water" is only mentioned once.
    Please be aware that I'm neither a native English speaker nor a teacher.

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    Default Re: Should "SURFACE AND GROUNDWATER" be "SURFACE AND GROUND WATER"?

    Quote Originally Posted by charliedeut View Post
    Hi,

    As fas as I can see, no, it isn't.

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    PS: We're not deaf, so quit shouting, please.
    That was a direct copy from Nature Magazine. So cool it. For no one's shouting.

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    Default Re: Should "SURFACE AND GROUNDWATER" be "SURFACE AND GROUND WATER"?

    Quote Originally Posted by NewHopeR View Post
    For no one's shouting.
    Writing in upper case, which is difficult to read and often used by people who are angry is known as shouting.

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    Default Re: Should "SURFACE AND GROUNDWATER" be "SURFACE AND GROUND WATER"?

    It depends on style guides. In our company, which deals with water in the many places you find it, we make stormwater, groundwater, and wastewater one word (the spell checker doesn't like stormwater and wastewater), but surface water remains an open compound. We've never lost a contract because someone didn't like the way we wrote it.

    I don't find it redundant to repeat "water" in this context. Surface water is lakes, streams, etc. Groundwater is underground, in aquifers or simply permeating the ground.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Default Re: Should "SURFACE AND GROUNDWATER" be "SURFACE AND GROUND WATER"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    Writing in upper case, which is difficult to read and often used by people who are angry is known as shouting.
    And when it's bold it looks really angry.

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