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    Infiniive

    Dear all,

    Infinitive shows unactualized events. But this rule does not seems to be fit in many cases like :

    1) I did roles that required me to play a woman with a heavy soul. (She has already played such type of roles)

    2) X seems to be sending troops in Y (X is sending troops)

    3) He claimed to have distributed......

    Can you please guide me on this.

    Thanks

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    Re: Infiniive

    Here's something you may want to read:

    http://www.edufind.com/english/grammar/ING5.cfm

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    Re: Infiniive

    Sorry I am totally confused now.

    Just wanted to know whether my understanding on this(explaination I gave) is right or not? Please help me out.

    Dear Teacher,

    Can we say after certain verbs, like seem, it will always be followed by infinitive irrespective of whether the event is actualised or unactualised.

    Likewise with verbs followed by Gerund. But Certain verbs makes the diffence.

    Am I right.

    Regards

    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea
    Here's something you may want to read:
    http://www.edufind.com/english/grammar/ING5.cfm
    Last edited by rajan; 16-Jan-2006 at 10:01.

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    Re: Infiniive

    Some verbs are always followed by one form, while others offer the choice (like 'stop')

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    Re: Infiniive

    Let's test it: <note, the symbol * means, ungrammatical>

    It seems (that) jogging isn't all that good for you after all.
    It seems *to jog . . .
    She seems to jog . . .
    She seems *jogging . . .
    They seem to care. . .
    They seem caring. <adjective; not a verb>
    He seems to be . . .
    He seems *being . . .

    Can you see the pattern?

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    Re: Infiniive

    Sorry I am totally confused now.

    Just wanted to know whether my understanding on this(explaination I gave) is right or not? Please help me out.


    Quote Originally Posted by rajan
    Dear all,
    Infinitive shows unactualized events. But this rule does not seems to be fit in many cases like :
    1) I did roles that required me to play a woman with a heavy soul. (She has already played such type of roles)
    2) X seems to be sending troops in Y (X is sending troops)
    3) He claimed to have distributed......
    Can you please guide me on this.
    Thanks

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    Re: Infiniive

    This rule you quote is wrong- the infinitive can show an unactualised event, but it is not a general rule covering all infinitives in my opinion. Where did you get it from?

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    Re: Infiniive

    I agree with tdol's reply. Additionally, 2) and 3) do not appear to be counter examples. They seem to fit the rule:

    Infinitive shows unactualized events. But this rule does not seems to be fit in many cases like :

    2) X seems to be sending troops in Y (X is sending troops)
    "seems" means, appears to be. It's not a fact; it's unactualized.

    3) He claimed to have distributed......
    It's his claim. Whether it's true (actualized) or false (unactualized) it yet to be known.

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