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    Default Indirect questions: Do you know vs. Do you think ?

    I have sets of two questions here, both seemingly indirect.

    1. Do you know where the butter is?

    2. Where do you think the butter is?
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    3. Do you know why he did that?

    4. Why do you think he did that?
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    5. Do you know when the train arrives?

    6. When do you think the train arrives?
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    For these sets of questions I'm wondering why the question word comes after 'know' but before 'think'.

    Thank you for any help
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    Default Re: Indirect questions: Do you know vs. Do you think ?

    I have numbered the questions for convenience.

    2, 4 and 6 are direct questions, so the verb comes after the question word.

    Rover

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    Default Re: Indirect questions: Do you know vs. Do you think ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    I have numbered the questions for convenience.

    2, 4 and 6 are direct questions, so the verb comes after the question word.

    Rover
    Thank you, I understand your explanation, but to make sure I must ask,

    Isn't (for example) the direct question for examples 5 and 6 "When does the train arrive?" The reason why I'm pushing this is I've found these sort of questions listed in my text book (New Inside Out) listed distinctly as "Indirect questions" So I need to be sure.

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    Default Re: Indirect questions: Do you know vs. Do you think ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    I have numbered the questions for convenience.



    2, 4 and 6 are direct questions, so the verb comes after the question word.

    Rover
    I'm just a student!
    As I understand, the thing determining the order between verb and question word is the question type (direct or indirect), right?
    But I think in the asker's case, it also involves the meanings and usages of know and think. I think 'know' is a transitive verb, so we have some structure like 'know something/someone' and 'know where/why'... But it's not the case with 'think'. That's just my idea.
    If possible, could you please tell me if these are OK:
    1. Do you think where the butter is?
    2. Can you think where the butter is?
    I think the #1 sounds unnatural but the #2 sounds OK to me.
    Thank you very much!

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    Default Re: Indirect questions: Do you know vs. Do you think ?

    Sorry but I need an answer to this question.

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    Default Re: Indirect questions: Do you know vs. Do you think ?

    Quote Originally Posted by skelerobo View Post
    Sorry but I need an answer to this question.
    I believe it has already been answered:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    2, 4 and 6 are direct questions, so the verb comes after the question word.
    Rover
    charliedeut
    Please be aware that I'm neither a native English speaker nor a teacher.

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    Default Re: Indirect questions: Do you know vs. Do you think ?

    Quote Originally Posted by charliedeut View Post
    I believe it has already been answered:



    charliedeut
    Sorry, let me rephrase, I need a confirmation for the answer to this question.

    Thank you.

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    Default Re: Indirect questions: Do you know vs. Do you think ?

    Quote Originally Posted by skelerobo View Post
    Sorry, let me rephrase, I need a confirmation for the answer to this question.

    Thank you.
    Confirmation from whom? Rover_KE is a respected English teacher of many years standing.

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    Default Re: Indirect questions: Do you know vs. Do you think ?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    Confirmation from whom? Rover_KE is a respected English teacher of many years standing.
    Well, from him or anyone else. The reason why is that his answer contradicts the information I have in my text book and If at all possible, I need to see some concurrance (or confirmation) of opinion in order to know for sure.

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    Default Re: Indirect questions: Do you know vs. Do you think ?

    Which "New Inside Out" is it?

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