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    I have two brothers who live in Japan.

    It might be folly to determine only the number of brothers here, but I'd like know native speakers' perception about it depending on a comma. 1 definitely says "I have only two brothers", then what about 2?
    "I may or may not have more than two brothers" or "definitely more than two brothers"?

    1. I have two brothers, who live in Japan.
    2. I have two brothers who live in Japan.

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    Re: I have two brothers who live in Japan.

    See this thread.

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    Re: I have two brothers who live in Japan.

    That thread was a little bit confusing as different posters gave different opinons. I think different teachers have different views on this stuff. Any more opinion?

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    Re: I have two brothers who live in Japan.

    I would assume that you have more than two brothers without the comma. However, if someone said "Are you 100% sure" I would not be.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: I have two brothers who live in Japan.

    For me, #1 means you have only two brothers. #2 is ambiguous although I would probably assume that you had more than two brothers, and the other brothers don't live in Japan. However, if I went on to discover that you only had two brothers, I would not be completely surprised.
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Re: I have two brothers who live in Japan.

    Thanks a lot for your endeavor.

    For #2, the Korean language positions the describing clause in front of the noun "two brothers", and even if we think of it Korean, we'll have the same ambiguity. I came to affirm the fact that many languages have things in common as all human beings share the same consciousness.

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