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    BY versus OF

    Hi, I normally recommend my students using the preposition ‘by’ in the sentences like
    The local museum has three paintings BY Picasso.
    By recently I ran into that paragraph in the Longman dictionary
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    9 used to talk about things produced by a famous or skilled writer, artist etc:
    the plays of Shakespeare
    the paintings of Picasso
    the work of a great architect
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    So, is the following sentence correct too?
    The local museum has three paintings OF Picasso.
    Or should I recommend my students to avoid using this preposition in such cases?

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    Re: BY versus OF

    Quote Originally Posted by nordway View Post
    Hi, I normally recommend my students using the preposition ‘by’ in the sentences like
    The local museum has three paintings BY Picasso.
    By recently I ran into that paragraph in the Longman dictionary
    ***********
    9 used to talk about things produced by a famous or skilled writer, artist etc:
    the plays of Shakespeare
    the paintings of Picasso
    the work of a great architect
    ***********
    So, is the following sentence correct too?
    The local museum has three paintings OF Picasso. No, unless they are pictures of the artist himself.
    Or should I recommend my students to avoid using this preposition in such cases?
    "The paintings of Picasso."
    "...three paintings by Picasso."
    "...three of Picasso's paintings."
    These are correct. Context makes the difference.

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    #3

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    OK, please put a couple examples with a phrase 'painting of Picacco'

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    Quote Originally Posted by nordway View Post
    OK, please put a couple examples with a phrase 'painting of Picacco'
    I have a painting of Picasso on my wall; it was painted by Doris Muggeridge of Walthorpe Gardens, Penge. It's not very good.
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    Re: BY versus OF

    So, the sentence
    I have a painting OF Picasso on my wall.
    is OK but the sentence
    The local museum has three paintings OF Picasso.
    is wrong. Why?

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    Re: BY versus OF

    Quote Originally Posted by nordway View Post
    So, the sentence
    I have a painting OF Picasso on my wall.
    is OK but the sentence
    The local museum has three paintings OF Picasso.
    is wrong. Why?
    It's not, if they are paintings of Picasso by other artists. Which is what I said in post #2.

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    Re: BY versus OF

    Do you understand that "A painting of Picasso" (as bhaisahab used it) means that it is a painting in which Picasso appears, but which was actually painted by someone else?
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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