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    Default "Even you should do it."

    "Even you should do it." "Only you can do it."

    Here in the sentences, Even and Only modify you respectively? Thank you so much as usual and have a good day.

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    QUOTE=sky3120;933671]"Even you should do it." "Only you can do it."

    Here in the sentences, Even and Only modify you respectively? Thank you so much as usual and have a good day.[/QUOTE]

    No! They are adverbs, and, as such, cannot, by definition, modify pronouns.

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    Default Re: "Even you should do it."

    Thank you and then what does it function in the sentence and what does it modify what? Thank you so much.

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    Default Re: "Even you should do it."

    Quote Originally Posted by sky3120 View Post
    "Even you should do it." "Only you can do it."

    Here in the sentences, Even and Only modify you respectively? Thank you so much as usual and have a good day.
    Only is an adjective as well:
    a: alone in a class or category :sole<the only one left><the only known species>
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Default Re: "Even you should do it."

    Quote Originally Posted by philo2009 View Post
    No! They are adverbs, and, as such, cannot, by definition, modify pronouns.
    What is the function of only and even in these sentences then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    Only is an adjective as well:
    a: alone in a class or category :sole<the only one left><the only known species>
    Indeed it is, but not here!

    'Only' is classified as an adjective only when it has the meaning 'sole' and functions as a modifier within a noun clause, e.g. an only child, the only problem.

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    Default Re: "Even you should do it."

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    What is the function of only and even in these sentences then?
    As already stated ADVERBS (belonging to a category of adverbial categorized by Quirk et al. as subjuncts).

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    Default Re: "Even you should do it."

    Quote Originally Posted by philo2009 View Post
    As already stated ADVERBS (belonging to a category of adverbial categorized by Quirk et al. as subjuncts).
    Fine, but Quirk et al (1985.604) say that focusing subjuncts such as even "candraw attention to part of a sentence as wide as the predication or as narrow as a single costituent of an element ...". It seems to me that it is not unreasonable to use the word modify of way in which even draws attention to you.

    Huddleston and Pullum (2002, 594-5), writing of even in sentences such as Even you would have enjoyed dancing tonight, say "It usually precedes the head it modifies ..." (my emphasis added).
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    Default Re: "Even you should do it."

    Quote Originally Posted by philo2009 View Post
    Indeed it is, but not here!

    'Only' is classified as an adjective only when it has the meaning 'sole' and functions as a modifier within a noun clause, e.g. an only child, the only problem.
    But that's exactly what it means here.
    You are the sole person who can do it. You are alone in the class of people who can do it.
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    Default Re: "Even you should do it."

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    But that's exactly what it means here.
    You are the sole person who can do it. You are alone in the class of people who can do it.
    Interesting idea, but I don't think it functions as an adjective in "Only you can do it". If we were to replace 'Only' by 'sole' or 'solely', it would have to be the latter. "Solely you can do it is", I admit, ugly, but is just about possible; 'Sole you can do it' is not possible. This suggests that 'only' must be in the same class as 'solely'.
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