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    going to + perfect infinitive

    "Its now -- the votes are going to have been taken here shortly. And hopefully we can move on and work on other things that the country needs to have addressed."

    Would this be a frequent use in contemporary English? Would there be regional preferences?

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    #2

    Re: going to + perfect infinitive

    You can't use the perfect infinitive if the votes haven't been taken yet.

    'The votes are going to be taken here shortly.'

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    Re: going to + perfect infinitive

    1)"If this is a situation where we are going to have been in water, how am I going to do it with her?"

    2)"We don't think that it's even good for the country because we don't think they're going to get neither peace nor security from this, just -- and it's not, you know -- we don't think, in the end, it's going to have done any good for the country."

    Is it typical of contemporary English to use "going to'' for "will" in such grammatical structures? Would there be any regional preferences?
    Last edited by ostap77; 28-Oct-2012 at 19:08.

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    #4

    Re: going to + perfect infinitive

    I nearly joined in with this thread and then I realised it's the "going to" vs "will" argument again. I've learnt my lesson on that one!
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: going to + perfect infinitive

    So there wouldn't be any difference between "going to have been" and "will have been" or "going to have done" and "will have done in sentences 1) and 2) in post #3?

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    Re: going to + perfect infinitive

    "We don't think that it's even good for the country because we don't think they're going to get neither peace nor security from this, just -- and it's not, you know -- we don't think, in the end, it's going to have done any good for the country."
    Note my correction of neither and nor.
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    So there wouldn't be any difference between "going to have been" and "will have been" or "going to have done" and "will have done in sentences 1) and 2) in post #3?
    There is the normal difference in meaning so often discussed in these forums. In this particular sentence, as sometimes happens, the difference is not particularly significant.

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    Re: going to + perfect infinitive

    I got you. Thanks. But I pulled those sntences up from COCAE.

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