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    Who and Whom

    Dear teacher,
    which of the preposition is correct in the following sentence?

    Mr Johnson is the one who/whom was chosen to be the chairman of the company.

    I am having difficulty differentiating objective from subjective

    Thank you

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    Re: Who and Whom

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilles L View Post
    Dear teacher,
    which of the preposition is correct in the following sentence?

    Mr Johnson is the one who/whom was chosen to be the chairman of the company.

    I am having difficulty differentiating objective from subjective

    Thank you
    Use "who".

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    Re: Who and Whom

    thank you for your answer. Can you please give me with the objective and subjective modes ? I realize the understanding of those principles have an impact on how to use who and whom. Thank you.

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    Re: Who and Whom

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilles L View Post
    thank you for your answer. Can you please give me with the objective and subjective modes ? I realize the understanding of those principles have an impact on how to use who and whom. Thank you.
    You are probably never going to need to use "whom".

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    Re: Who and Whom

    I would guess that the vast majority of native speakers never use the word "whom," unless they are reciting some set phrase (like "for whom the bell tolls") or being deliberately formal.

    If you want to speak like a native, forget the word exists.

    That said, if the word you are looking for is the actor of a verb, then it is the subject. Use "who" like you would use "he" or "I."

    Who wants some ice cream? I want some ice cream.

    If the word is the thing being acted upon by a verb, or the object of a preposition, then it is an object. Use "whom" like you would "him" or "me."

    Give the ball to me. To whom should I give the ball?

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    Re: Who and Whom

    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    Hello,


    May this non-teacher commend you for wanting to know the difference between "who" and "whom."

    I hope that you will continue to study the difference until you are able to use those two words -- especially in

    writing.

    I think that I am able to use it correctly most (not all) of the time.

    It is only my opinion that knowing the difference will add to your self-confidence in using the language and that many

    readers will respect you for showing that you know the difference.

    *****

    Obviously, in a post it is impossible to discuss such a difficult topic.

    May I just leave you with three points?

    1. If it is the subject, you must use it:

    a. I am pretty sure that I know the name of the candidate who will win the election on November 6.

    i. Obviously, you could not say: I am pretty sure that I know the name of the candidate will win ....

    2. If it is the object, then you can omit it sometimes.



    a. I know the name of the girl whom you love.

    i. You could say: I know the name of the girl you love.

    3. But if it is the object of a preposition, you cannot omit it:

    a. Whom do you live with? With whom do you live? (That is: You do live with whom.)

    Remember: ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    James

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    Re: Who and Whom

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    It is only my opinion that knowing the difference will add to your self-confidence in using the language and that many readers will respect you for showing that you know the difference.
    This is simply not true of British English. Because of my age and education, I am a 'whom'-user, even, sometimes, in speech, but I am aware that this sounds very stilted to some speakers. There are far more important things for learners to worry about than how a minority of native speakers use 'whom'.

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    Re: Who and Whom

    I think the only time whom is required nowadays is after a preposition - to whom it may concern. The rest of the time, it's optional. I use it in formal language and rarely elsewhere.

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    Re: Who and Whom

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilles L View Post
    Which of the preposition is correct in the following sentence?
    Note that 'who/whom' are pronouns - not prepositions.

    Rover

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    Re: Who and Whom

    Mr Johnson is the one who was chosen to be the chairman of the company.
    I prefer who instead whom.

    who and whom are both refer to people.
    who refers to the subject, whereas whom refers to the object.

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