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    Default Re: TS Eliot says

    Quote Originally Posted by nelson13 View Post
    Thank you. Is consistency needed?:

    What the writer wants to say is that....

    What the writer wanted to say was that....

    if they are OK,

    how about a mixture:

    What the writer wants to say was that.... (it sounds strange to me) And to me
    What the writer wanted to say is that.... (it sounds logical to me)
    Hmm... I wouldn't say 'logical', but it does sound OK. If a writer made a comment about a general truth [that still holds, I think this sort of inconsistency is defensible; but I wouldn't say it was a good idea.

    For example 'When Shakespeare wrote 'All that glitters is not gold' [he didn't, but just for argument's sake...] he means that not everything that is valuable looks valuable; in other words, you can't judge a book by its cover.' This makes sense, but I'd prefer something like
    Shakespeare's 'All that glitters is not gold' means that not everything that is valuable looks valuable; in other words, you can't judge a book by its cover.'
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    Default Re: TS Eliot says

    Quote Originally Posted by nelson13 View Post
    Thank you. Is consistency needed?:

    What the writer wants to say is that....

    What the writer wanted to say was that....

    if they are OK,

    how about a mixture:

    What the writer wants to say was that.... (it sounds strange to me)
    What the writer wanted to say is that.... (it sounds logical to me)
    I think a writers body of work lives and is present. If the writer is dead then the writer is past.

    Eliot's poem...says....
    Eliot said...

    Consistancy is important. Do not mix tense (except between the author and the work as noted above). Choose a tense and stick with it.
    Also, you don't really know what a writer intended to say...it's your opinion and should be stated as such. IMHO.
    "I believe..." "I argue..." "Eliot suggests..." then evidence to prove. Every teacher or prof has different guidelines for choosing your point of view.


    Hope that helps,
    ps. my first post so, hi all:)
    4th yr engl. major.

    Cheers.

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    Default Re: TS Eliot says

    Thank you.

    I said What the writer wanted to say is that.... sounds logical to me, because to think about the tenses in English from a Chinese's point of view the non-ellipted form of the sentence can be :

    What the writer wanted to say in the past is now that....

    I said IS is OK because to me by reasoning IS is used to bring up the that-clause and this that-clause is what I want to say NOW.

    By the way, in the ancient Chinese language, not only did we not have inflection(we have never had, and will never), but also we did not need a so-called verb. For example, in ancient Chinese the following sentence is idiomatic Chinese:

    Qin, a strong nation.

    which is a complete sentence. So don't feel strange when a Chinese student asks so many questions about tenses.

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