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    Default Native speakers like to use adjectives instead of adverbs??

    Hi, native speaker friends:

    According to the grammar I learned, verbs should be modified by adverbs, right? But I've noticed native speakers prefer to use adjectives, and it seems to be so mainstream.

    For instance:
    Hire me. I work cheap.

    Eat healthy.

    He's real good.

    She works real hard.

    I can't think of other examples for the time being.

    Can you tell me if the above-listed sentences are acceptable?? Thanks!

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    Default Re: Native speakers like to use adjectives instead of adverbs??

    The first sounds sub-standard. In the third, the adjective following a link verb is correct. In the fourth, 'hard' is an adverb.

    That leaves only the third. This is the sort of snappy suggestion in which a breach of the rules of grammar is forgiven because of the crisp effect. There is also the point that 'eat healthily' somehow sems to suggests that there is some healthy way of chewing and swallowing, which is not what 'eat healthy' means.
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    Default Re: Native speakers like to use adjectives instead of adverbs??

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    The first sounds sub-standard. In the third, the adjective following a link verb is correct. In the fourth, 'hard' is an adverb.

    That leaves only the third. This is the sort of snappy suggestion in which a breach of the rules of grammar is forgiven because of the crisp effect. There is also the point that 'eat healthily' somehow sems to suggests that there is some healthy way of chewing and swallowing, which is not what 'eat healthy' means.
    Thanks for the detailed explanation, Mr. 5jj.

    But the key word in the 3rd and 4th is "real". I think it should be:
    He's really good.

    She works really hard.

    Both modifies the following adjective( "good" and "hard.")

    I've also heard people say:"He's doing terrible." Is that also the sort of "crisp effect" supposed to be forgiven?

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    Default Re: Native speakers like to use adjectives instead of adverbs??

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo_Lin View Post
    But the key word in the 3rd and 4th is "real". I think it should be:
    He's really good.

    She works really hard.
    Sorry. I missed that. I agree that, in BrE, it should be 'really'.
    I've also heard people say:"He's doing terrible." Is that also the sort of "crisp effect" supposed to be forgiven?
    No. The fact is that the adjective/adverb difference is not one which is absorbed as readily, for example, the present/past difference. Adverbs are something that some childen encounter for the first time when they go to school, and some never master them.

    You will therefore hear adjectivesat times when you would expect adverbs. You will not generally hear this from better educated people, and you will not often see it in print.
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    Default Re: Native speakers like to use adjectives instead of adverbs??

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    Sorry. I missed that. I agree that, in BrE, it should be 'really'.
    ...You will therefore hear adjectives at times when you would expect adverbs. You will not generally hear this from better educated people, and you will not often see it in print.
    Thanks, Mr. 5jj.

    Then are they acceptable in AmE?
    He's real good.
    She works real hard.
    He's doing terrible.

    Btw, I also heard the "He's doing terrible" from an American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo_Lin View Post
    Then are they acceptable in AmE?
    I'll have to leave the response to that to a speaker of AmE.
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    Default Re: Native speakers like to use adjectives instead of adverbs??

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo_Lin View Post
    Thanks, Mr. 5jj.

    Then are they acceptable in AmE?
    He's real good.
    She works real hard.
    He's doing terrible.

    Btw, I also heard the "He's doing terrible" from an American.
    If you hear "really + adjective" in BrE, there is a good chance that the AmE equivalent is "real + adjective", yes, but an AmE speaker will be able to confirm whether that is always the case.

    For info, please don't refer to other users here as "Mr". This is partly due to the fact that many of us are female so "Mr" would be inappropriate, but also because there is no need for such use. Just use the username. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo_Lin View Post

    According to the grammar I learned, verbs should be modified by adverbs, right? But I've noticed native speakers prefer to use adjectives.
    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    Hello, Mr. Lin:


    I think that this information may interest you.


    One day, someone asked Mr. Steve Jobs why he chose the slogan "Think Different" instead of "Think Differently."

    Mr. Jobs explained that he wanted "different" to be used as a noun, as in "Think victory" or "Think beauty."

    It also sounded like the popular "Think big." Mr. Jobs said, " 'Think differently' wouldn't hit the meaning for me."



    James


    * The source of this information was the August, 2012, issue of AARP Magazine (an American magazine for old people, such as I).

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    Hello, Hugo:


    This morning I was reading my favorite part of the newspaper (the comic strips, of course) and saw something that

    immediately reminded me of your thread.

    In a comic strip entitled "Tundra" by Chad Carpenter, two men are discussing a lazy dog that does not like to chase

    automobiles. One man says to the other: "He's just not real motivated to chase cars."

    I imagine that a teacher would say, "Change the adjective 'real' to the adverb 'really.' " And maybe a super strict

    teacher might say, "Change the sentence to 'He's just not very much motivated to chase cars.' "

    *****

    Some outstanding ESL teachers in the United States suggest that you read some American comic strips every day.

    You can find them on the Web. What are the benefits?

    1. You will see how ordinary people speak.

    2. You will learn lots of idioms. (You will need to check the Web or post a thread here when you read an idiom that you do not understand.)

    3. You will learn a lot about American culture. For example, many of the comic strips today discuss a big American

    holiday this Thursday. It is called Thanksgiving. Some people humorously call it "Turkey Day."

    4. If I remember correctly, some teachers here have warned against reading comics because those strips may not

    always contain standard English. From my experience, they usually do contain standard English.

    5. If you read American comic strips every day and ask questions about anything that you do not understand,

    you will see great improvement in your English. And they will give you an idea of how Americans speak.

    6. Some American ESL teachers consider comic strips the "secret" to improving your English. Why not try it? You

    have nothing to lose.


    James

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    Default Re: Native speakers like to use adjectives instead of adverbs??

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    And maybe a super strict teacher might say, "Change the sentence to 'He's just not very much motivated to chase cars.'
    I don't see why s/he should.
    If I remember correctly, some teachers here have warned against reading comics because those strips may not always contain standard English.
    I don't actually warn against reading comics, but I do suggest that people interested in passing recognised EFL examinations should not waste too much time worrying about the language they find in comic strips.
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