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    Present participles involve gerunds?

    We have learned that the form of base ing can be used for present participles and gerunds but according to some definitions, base ing itself is called present participles and then we should change a lot of things here.
    Do you agree that a gerund is a part of present participles and they function as an adjective and a noun (gerund), etc?

    In grammar, the present participle of a verb is the form which ends in `-ing'. Present participles are used to form continuous tenses, as in `She was wearing a neat blue suit'. They are often nouns, as in `I hate cooking' and`Cooking can be fun'. Many of them can be used like an adjective in front of a noun, as in`their smiling faces'.
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    Re: Present participles involve gerunds?

    Quote Originally Posted by sky3120 View Post

    Do you agree that a gerund is a part of present participles and they function as an adjective and a noun (gerund), etc?
    No.

    -ing forms can function as nouns and as adjectives. When functioning as nouns, they are generally known as gerunds; when functioning as adjectives they are generally known as (present) participles.

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    Re: Present participles involve gerunds?

    Gerund : a noun in the form of the present participle of a verb (that is, ending in -ing) for example travelling in the sentence I preferred travelling alone.
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    It is so hard for me to come to an conclusion. Please give me your wisdom about this issue.

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    Re: Present participles involve gerunds?

    Quote Originally Posted by sky3120 View Post
    It is so hard for me to come to an conclusion. Please give me your wisdom about this issue.
    What conclusion is it hard for you to come to?

    Gerunds have the same form as the present participle.
    In all regular verbs, and some irregular verbs, the second (past tense) form has the same form as the third (past participle) form.

    Because A looks like B, we don't have to conclude that A is B.

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    Re: Present participles involve gerunds?

    I am sorry about posting this question up here and there if it bothers you but I would like to hear from more native English speakers. So I do not have to take the definitions seriously or how can I take "in the form of the present participle of a verb"? Thank you so much.

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    Re: Present participles involve gerunds?

    Quote Originally Posted by sky3120 View Post
    I am sorry about posting this question up here and there if it bothers you but I would like to hear from more native English speakers. So I do not have to take the definitions seriously or how can I take "in the form of the present participle of a verb"? Thank you so much.
    I have nothing to add to 5jj's description, but you might like to look at these two links.
    Definition of gerund
    Definition of gerund

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    Re: Present participles involve gerunds?

    Quote Originally Posted by sky3120 View Post
    how can I take "in the form of the present participle of a verb"?
    Gerunds end in -ing. Present participles end in -ing. Gerunds and present participles have the same form/construction/appearance/etc.

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    Re: Present participles involve gerunds?

    Thank you and then can we say that there are other thoughts about this issue as well?

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    Re: Present participles involve gerunds?

    Until you see it used, you don't know what it is.

    Opened
    May
    Fishing

    Is the first the form in the simple past or the form used for the perfect (i.e., the second or third part of the verb)?
    Is the second a girl's name or a modal?
    Is the third a gerund or the present participle?


    They can all be either one, until they are used. Then you know. The present participle looks like a gerund. That doesn't mean it's the same.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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