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    Insinuate among people / bring miseries on somebody's head

    I'm still translating a historical text from Russian into English, and I've got such a sentence: "Behold the demon who insinuated among us many years ago! Do you believe me now that his rotten spirit has brought miseries on our heads?" Do these sentences have right to exist? I've marked the places which are the most doubtful for me.

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    Re: Insinuate among people / bring miseries on somebody's head

    Quote Originally Posted by Marina Gaidar View Post
    I'm still translating a historical text from Russian into English, and I've got such a sentence: "Behold the demon who insinuated among us many years ago! Do you believe me now that his rotten spirit has brought miseries on our heads?" Do these sentences have a right to exist? I've marked the places which are the most doubtful for me.
    What did the demon insinuate?

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    Re: Insinuate among people / bring miseries on somebody's head

    Quote Originally Posted by Gillnetter View Post
    What did the demon insinuate?
    Well... how to say... he became a part of a commune, like sneaked into it. I should use some direct object after "insinuate"?

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    Re: Insinuate among people / bring miseries on somebody's head

    Quote Originally Posted by Marina Gaidar View Post
    Well... how to say... he became a part of a commune, like sneaked into it. I should use some direct object after "insinuate"?
    I would say something like "He insinuated himself into our group". When using "insinuate" to show that some introduced themselves subtly, you need to say what they insinuated themselves into.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Insinuate among people / bring miseries on somebody's head

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I would say something like "He insinuated himself into our group". When using "insinuate" to show that some introduced themselves subtly, you need to say what they insinuated themselves into.
    Oh! I see! Thanks! And what about "bring miseries on someone's head"? Is it correct?

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    Re: Insinuate among people / bring miseries on somebody's head

    Quote Originally Posted by Marina Gaidar View Post
    Well... how to say... he became a part of a commune, like sneaked into it. I should use some direct object after "insinuate"?
    I suppose that you could say that the demon insinuated himself into the commune. The problem I have with even using "insinuate" is that you have to select a secondary meaning for this word. The primary meaning of insinuate is to suggest something in an indirect manner, such as, "He insinuated that I came to work later". I would opt for another term - "The demon worked his way into...", "The demon wormed his way into...".

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    Re: Insinuate among people / bring miseries on somebody's head

    Quote Originally Posted by Gillnetter View Post
    I suppose that you could say that the demon insinuated himself into the commune. The problem I have with even using "insinuate" is that you have to select a secondary meaning for this word. The primary meaning of insinuate is to suggest something in an indirect manner, such as, "He insinuated that I came to work later". I would opt for another term - "The demon worked his way into...", "The demon wormed his way into...".
    I agree. I had to check the definition of "insinuate" because I only ever use it myself to mean to suggest something indirectly. I knew it had a secondary meaning but I wanted to check it was what I thought it was. We rarely use it that way. I like your "worked his way into ..." or even "wormed his way into ..."
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Insinuate among people / bring miseries on somebody's head

    Thank you! You've been very helpful!

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