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    Default Re: have / having champagne brought to our room

    Sorry, I should have quoted the post I was referring to - I mean the one about the painting.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Default Re: have / having champagne brought to our room

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    That "have" is the have of possession, not causation.
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    It's all a question of context. 'Have', followed immediately by 'painted by...' is possessive .


    That's the point I was (so desperately) trying to make! You seem to approve the possessive usage of 'have' in the painting example, but say it's totally out of the question in the champagne one. Both look pretty much the same to me.

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    Default Re: have / having champagne brought to our room

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    This would suggest that it's possible to interpret HAVE in this way in Verona's We have champagne brought up to our room specially.

    I think it is possible.
    I think it would need a comma after "champagne" to make it possible.

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    Default Re: have / having champagne brought to our room

    - I said 'break the tie', which I did with words. You could do it with punctuation; in speech, you could do it with a pause.

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    Last edited by 5jj; 02-Dec-2012 at 17:30. Reason: minor typo

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