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    Siren songs

    Please help me check the following sentence.

    The ancient Greek sailors were afraid of hearing the enchanting music and voices of Sirens, which lured nearby sailors to steal/block the sailors’ aspiration/eagerness for returning home.

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    Re: Siren songs

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashiuhto View Post
    Please help me check the following sentence.

    The ancient Greek sailors were afraid of hearing the enchanting music and voices of Sirens, which lured nearby sailors to steal/block the sailors’ aspiration/eagerness for returning home.
    To "lure" is to attract. The Sirens attracted sailors. The sailors were first lured, and then forced to come to the island where the Sirens were. Your sentence would be better if you wrote - "...which lured nearby sailors and stole (In the sense of, to take away) the sailor's desires to return home".

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    Re: Siren songs

    I understood that Sirens caused the sailors to shipwreck. That's a bit more than taking away their desire to return home. It is removing their ability to return.

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    Re: Siren songs

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    I understood that Sirens caused the sailors to shipwreck. That's a bit more than taking away their desire to return home. It is removing their ability to return.
    You are correct, but, prior to the time that the ships wrecked on the island, the sailor's intentions (hopes, desires, aspirations, plans) had to be changed by the songs of the Sirens. Absent the lure of the Sirens, the sailors would have sailed on to their homes.

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    Re: Siren songs

    Interesting Am Eng use of shipwreck/wreck. In Br English the verb is purely transitive: they were shipwrecked.

    Carry on please.

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    Re: Siren songs

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    Interesting Am Eng use of shipwreck/wreck. In Br English the verb is purely transitive: they were shipwrecked.

    Carry on please.

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    So, you've never wrecked a car? You've only had a car wrecked? I did not know that.

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    Re: Siren songs

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    So, you've never wrecked a car? You've only had a car wrecked? I did not know that.
    Cars are not ships

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    Re: Siren songs

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    So, you've never wrecked a car? You've only had a car wrecked? I did not know that.
    I think Bob was referring to this "... prior to the time that the ships wrecked on the island ..."

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    Re: Siren songs

    We don't generally say that we "wrecked a car" though. We might say we crashed the car, and if it's not possible to repair it, then we wrote off the car. It's a write-off.

    - Mum, I've crashed the car.
    - What?! How much is it going to cost to fix?
    - Oh, they can't fix it. I guess I should have said that I've written off the car.
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Re: Siren songs

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    We don't generally say that we "wrecked a car" though. We might say we crashed the car, and if it's not possible to repair it, then we wrote off the car. It's a write-off.

    - Mum, I've crashed the car.
    - What?! How much is it going to cost to fix?
    - Oh, they can't fix it. I guess I should have said that I've written off the car.
    We say "totaled." If the cost to repair is more than the value of the car, it is totaled. You get a check and the insurance company takes your wrecked car.

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