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    halo!
    i don't really know this question whether it can be posted here or not
    i am a senior form student who comes from hongkong!
    i will have a public exam about 4 months later
    but my english is not that good.
    i want to get lv4 of english in the public exam.....so that i can get into the university
    i am now trying many and many ways to improve my listening and speaking
    but it dosen't work!!!!
    i listen bbc learning english's news article 15-30mins one day..but i know it is not enough!
    but i don't have any free time to watch movie or drama!
    so..how can i improve my poor listening skills?
    i always don't know wt the people are talking about during listening..
    so i then can't write any words on answer sheet.
    dose there are any good sites or good multimedia can help to improve my listening???
    by the way, i watched TED's talk sometimes

    it really confuse me
    how can i improve it?? can anyone suggest some ways to me??:( really thanks a lot if you can!!!

    besides, how to improve speaking skill?
    i always can't speak in english naturally...
    in the individual part of speaking exam...i can't speak...since i don't know how to use english to express my ideas...how can make my english speaking skills become more good and then i can use english to speak anytime.


    i am looking forward your suggestion:(
    plz help me :(

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    Default Re: how to improve poor listening and speaking skills?

    Quote Originally Posted by kichan View Post
    halo!
    i don't really know this question whether it can be posted here or not (missing punctuation)
    i am a senior form student who comes from hongkong!
    i will have a public exam about 4 months later (missing punctuation)
    but my english is not that good.
    i want to get lv4 of english in the public exam.....so that i can get into the university (missing punctuation)
    i am now trying many and many ways to improve my listening and speaking but it dosen't work!!!!
    i listen (missing word) bbc learning english's news article 15-30 mins one day..but i know it is not enough!
    but i don't have any free time to watch movie or drama!
    so..how can i improve my poor listening skills?
    i always don't know wt the people are talking about during listening..
    so i then can't write any words on answer sheet.
    dose there are any good sites or good multimedia can help to improve my listening???
    by the way, i watched TED's talk sometimes (missing punctuation)

    it really confuse me (missing punctuation)
    how can i improve it?? can anyone suggest some ways to me?? :( really thanks a lot if you can!!!

    besides, how to improve speaking skill?
    i always can't speak in english naturally...
    in the individual part of speaking exam...i can't speak...since i don't know how to use english to express my ideas...how can (missing word) make my english speaking skills become more good and then i can use english to speak anytime.


    i am looking forward your suggestion (missing punctuation) :(
    plz help me (missing punctuation) :(
    I assume that you have a written exam in 4 months as well. If that is the case and your post is an example of your written English, then you have to worry about your writing more than about your listening and speaking.
    Note, and use, the rules of written English:

    - Start every new sentence with a capital letter.
    - End every sentence with a single appropriate punctuation mark (full stop, question mark, exclamation mark).
    - Always capitalise the word "I" (first person singular).
    - Capitalise all proper nouns (English, Spain, London).
    - Use full English words, not textspeak or chatlish (use "please", not "plz"). I have marked in red every part of your post which needs correction - spelling, grammar, capitalisation or punctuation.

    We don't connect sections of sentences using lots of little dots. You don't need to type on a new line each time you start a sentence.
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Default Re: how to improve poor listening and speaking skills?

    Quote Originally Posted by kichan View Post
    how to improve speaking skill?
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    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    Hello, Kichan:



    I know that it sounds stupid, but the only way to learn how to speak another language is to speak it.

    I think that many English-speaking tourists visit your beautiful city. Is there some way that you can

    volunteer to help those tourists? It will force you to speak English with them. Do not worry about making

    mistakes. The more you speak, the better your English will become. There is no magic. It is very simple:

    Practice makes perfect.



    James


    P.S. One last suggestion: Even if you do not have anyone with whom to speak English, you can speak English to

    yourself. That is, each day spend 30 minutes reading out loud something in English. Pronounce the words very clearly.
    Last edited by TheParser; 14-Dec-2012 at 22:24.

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    You need to listen to a recorded material spoken by native speakers.Give yourself three tasks:1) first listen for gist ( you only listen to get an understanding what the material is all about). In this case you only play the recorder once.
    2) listen for specific information (like dates,times,names). Again you only listen only once (that makes it your second time you listen to the same thing). 3) lastly you listen for detail ( a broader listening).This time you can play the material as many times as you need to. Try doing this many times, with different materials.This way you will improve your listening skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I assume that you have a written exam in 4 months as well. If that is the case and your post is an example of your written English, then you have to worry about your writing more than about your listening and speaking.
    Note, and use, the rules of written English:

    - Start every new sentence with a capital letter.
    - End every sentence with a single appropriate punctuation mark (full stop, question mark, exclamation mark).
    - Always capitalise the word "I" (first person singular).
    - Capitalise all proper nouns (English, Spain, London).
    - Use full English words, not textspeak or chatlish (use "please", not "plz"). I have marked in red every part of your post which needs correction - spelling, grammar, capitalisation or punctuation.

    We don't connect sections of sentences using lots of little dots. You don't need to type on a new line each time you start a sentence.
    yah, you are right!
    my writing is not really good
    as for the those mistakes, i have already known they are incorrect
    as i think i can use informal language in the internet, so i don't pay attention to any grammar,capitalisation and punctuation
    when i am doing the writing task, i won't write like this of coz!
    maybe i need to do the same even in the internet.

    anyway, thank you for your inspired response:)
    by the way, are you a teacher? can i send some of writing task to u and let you to check if there are any mistakes?
    i really need someone who can correct my writing task :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by kichan View Post
    yah, you are right!
    my writing is not really good
    as for the those mistakes, i have already known they are incorrect
    as i think i can use informal language in the internet, so i don't pay attention to any grammar,capitalisation and punctuation
    when i am doing the writing task, i won't write like this of coz!
    maybe i need to do the same even in the internet.

    anyway, thank you for your inspired response:)
    by the way, are you a teacher? can i send some of writing task to u and let you to check if there are any mistakes?
    i really need someone who can correct my writing task :(
    I am not going to spend another five minutes correcting all the errors in this post. However, you might be able to use informal language and writing on the internet generally, but this site is specifically for people learning English. If you want us to take the time to help you, then we expect you to take the time to type properly.
    It is VERY good practice to write properly in a foreign language at all times, whether you are on the internet or not.
    You can post writing practice in the Editing and Writing Topics section of this website. Please do not send pieces to individual members. That is not how the forum works.
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    Hello, Kichan:



    I know that it sounds stupid, but the only way to learn how to speak another language is to speak it.

    I think that many English-speaking tourists visit your beautiful city. Is there some way that you can

    volunteer to help those tourists? It will force you to speak English with them. Do not worry about making

    mistakes. The more you speak, the better your English will become. There is no magic. It is very simple:

    Practice makes perfect.



    James


    P.S. One last suggestion: Even if you do not have anyone with whom to speak English, you can speak English to

    yourself. That is, each day spend 30 minutes reading out loud something in English. Pronounce the words very clearly.
    Thank you for your inspired responses and suggestions :>
    It's okay even you are not a teacher:)
    I agree with "Practice makes perfect."
    It is not often that i can have a chance to volunteer English-speaking tourists:(
    Reading out loud something in English -> I will try it! Does it work? Maybe it only can improve my pronunciation:(

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    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I am not going to spend another five minutes correcting all the errors in this post. However, you might be able to use informal language and writing on the internet generally, but this site is specifically for people learning English. If you want us to take the time to help you, then we expect you to take the time to type properly.
    It is VERY good practice to write properly in a foreign language at all times, whether you are on the internet or not.
    You can post writing practice in the Editing and Writing Topics section of this website. Please do not send pieces to individual members. That is not how the forum works.
    Okay! I will post it later in that section!Thank you very much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grammar girl View Post
    You need to listen to a recorded material spoken by native speakers.Give yourself three tasks:1) first listen for gist ( you only listen to get an understanding what the material is all about). In this case you only play the recorder once.
    2) listen for specific information (like dates,times,names). Again you only listen only once (that makes it your second time you listen to the same thing). 3) lastly you listen for detail ( a broader listening).This time you can play the material as many times as you need to. Try doing this many times, with different materials.This way you will improve your listening skills.
    Thank you for your useful suggestions!!!!!!!
    I will try these 3 steps!!!!
    By the way, what types of recorded materials i can use? News report, radio or anyelse???

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    Quote Originally Posted by kichan View Post
    Thank you for your useful suggestions!!!!!!!
    I will try these 3 steps!!!!
    By the way, what types of recorded materials can I can use? News reports, radio or anything else???
    Remember that only one single punctuation mark is required at the end of a sentence.

    You can use any recorded materials which you can trust to be "correct" English. Don't use poems or song lyrics at this stage - grammar and proper English are frequently lacking in both.

    Watch an English news channel, listen to English radio all the time at home (preferably a station which has a lot of talking and not too much music), watch TED talks, anything which will help you pick up the tempo, cadence and rhythm of English. You will find that you start to understand more and more as time goes on, even if you just play an English radio station without really listening to it.
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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