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    dropping ending -s

    Would it be right to drop -s in a third-person-singular verb after the introductory expression I hope (would hope)?

    e.g.
    I hope she win.
    I would hope he come.

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    Re: dropping ending -s

    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****

    Where did you find 'I hope she win'? It's wrong.

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    Re: dropping ending -s

    'I would hope he come' is also wrong.

    Rover

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    Re: dropping ending -s

    Quote Originally Posted by sergeyrais View Post
    Would it be right to drop -s in a third-person-singular verb after the introductory expression I hope (would hope)?

    e.g.
    I hope she win.
    I would hope he come.
    I hope she wins.
    I would hope he comes. (Unlikely sentence)
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Re: dropping ending -s

    You may be confusing this situation with the subjunctive: I demand he leave. I requested she go.

    But "I hope" doesn't take the subjunctive.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: dropping ending -s

    I have heard about subjunctive but never thought it would allow things like:

    I demand he leave.
    I requested she go.

    I will have a conversation with Mr. Swan.

    Thank you Barb

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    Re: dropping ending -s

    Quote Originally Posted by Offroad View Post
    I have heard about subjunctive but never thought it would allow things like:

    I demand he leave.
    I requested she go.

    I will have a conversation with Mr. Swan.
    I wouldn't bother, Offroad. Very few native speakers use those constructions and they sound wrong to the majority who have never heard of the subjunctive.

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    Re: dropping ending -s

    I've been told that Americans use the subjunctive more than other English-speaking nations.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: dropping ending -s

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    I wouldn't bother, Offroad. Very few native speakers use those constructions and they sound wrong to the majority who have never heard of the subjunctive.

    Rover
    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    I've been told that Americans use the subjunctive more than other English-speaking nations.
    So it is safe not to use the subjunctive on formal documents?

    Many thanks

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    Re: dropping ending -s

    On formal documents it's safer not to use it than to attempt to use it but get it wrong.

    Rover

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