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    #11

    Re: dropping ending -s

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    I've been told that Americans use the subjunctive more than other English-speaking nations.
    Good point. Your post reminded of a table in English Grammar in Use by Raymond Murphy which lists some of the most important differences between American English and British English:

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    After insist, demand etc. you can use should:
    - I insisted that he should apologise.
    - Many people are demanding that something should be done about the problem.

    AMERICAN

    The subjunctive is normally used. Should is unusual after insist, demand etc. :
    - I insisted that he apologize.
    - Many people are demanding that something be done about the problem.

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    #12

    Re: dropping ending -s

    'Should' makes it simpler! :)

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    #13

    Re: dropping ending -s

    Despite the fact that I am a native BrE speaker, I find the examples with "should" a little unnatural and, in both those examples, that the meaning is slightly different.
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    #14

    Re: dropping ending -s

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    Despite the fact that I am a native BrE speaker, I find the examples with "should" a little unnatural and, in both those examples, that the meaning is slightly different.
    Dear EMS, how would you word them?

    Many thanks

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    #15

    Re: dropping ending -s

    Without "should".

    I insisted that he apologise.
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    #16

    Re: dropping ending -s

    Then I shall have a 'conversation' with Mr. Swan, and maybe share some of it in the forums.

    Thank you

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    #17

    Re: dropping ending -s

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    Without "should".

    I insisted that he apologise.
    That's what I would use too.

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    #18

    Re: dropping ending -s

    On the other hand, in legal documents, it's not unusual to find it used (usually correctly)

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