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    1 makes sense, but 2 sounds unnatural. What do you think?

    gz186) I love her. One of my friends loves her, too.
    1. One of my friends as well as I loves her.
    2. One of my friends loves her as well as I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    1 makes sense, but 2 sounds unnatural. What do you think?

    gz186) I love her. One of my friends loves her, too.
    1. One of my friends as well as I loves her.
    2. One of my friends loves her as well as I.

    Come on, keannu. "I loves her"? How does that sound to you? I know that the "as well as X" should be ignored in determining which verb to use, but how it sounds will affect what is actually said.

    None of these will ever sound natural and the only way a native speaker would say them is if they started saying one thing thing (One of my friends) and then mentally switched gears and ended awkwardly.

    Don't waste your time learning how to make these unnatural sentences.

    I love her and so does one of my friends.
    One of my friends loves her and so do I.
    She is loved both by one of my friends and by me.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Maybe 2 doesn't make sense and the examples you provided would be more natural, but 1 is definitely correct, I think. 1 appears in a grammar book's exercise example. Maybe they made an error, but in this sentence it is "one of my friends" that connects to the verb "loves", not "I".

    1. One of my friends as well as I loves her.

    You mean this doesn't makes sense, either? If so, maybe this is only a grammatical sentence.
    *He as well as I loves Bon Jovi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    I know that the "as well as X" should be ignored in determining which verb to use, but how it sounds will affect what is actually said.
    I don't have anything else to add to this.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post


    Don't waste your time learning how to make these unnatural sentences.
    That's worth repeating, too.

    Rover

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    Default Re: as well as I.

    Just one last question. Then, when is "A as well as B" used? For simple structures?

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    Default Re: as well as I.

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    Maybe 2 doesn't make sense and the examples you provided would be more natural, but 1 is definitely correct, I think. 1 appears in a grammar book's exercise example. Maybe they made an error, but in this sentence it is "one of my friends" that connects to the verb "loves", not "I".

    1. One of my friends as well as I loves her.

    You mean this doesn't makes sense, either? If so, maybe this is only a grammatical sentence.
    *He as well as I loves Bon Jovi.
    The only way you could make that even remotely acceptable would be to use commas or brackets:

    He, as well as I, loves Bon Jovi.
    He (as well as I) loves Bon Jovi.

    That way, at least it's clear that "loves" belongs to "He" and not to "I". However, please please please bear in mind that just because a sentence can be constructed, that doesn't mean that it should be, or that a native speaker would ever use it. I cannot imagine any circumstance whatsoever where I would use any construction other than the ones that were clearly given to you by Barb.

    He and I love Bon Jovi.
    He and I both love Bon Jovi.
    He loves Bon Jovi and so do I.
    I love Bon Jovi and so does he.
    I love Bon Jovi and so does one of my friends.
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Default Re: as well as I.

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    Just one last question. Then, when is "A as well as B" used? For simple structures?
    I like peas as well as carrots.

    Even that is a bit pointless, as we would just say "I like peas and carrots".
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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