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    #1

    made ending slavery in the South a war goal/as a gold

    In September 1862, Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation made ending slavery in the South a war goal, and dissuaded the British from intervening.

    Is it better to write the bold phrase as "
    made ending slavery in the South as a war goal"?
    ("as" is added in the phrase above)


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    #2

    Re: made ending slavery in the South a war goal/as a gold

    No. That would be unnatural.

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    #3

    Re: made ending slavery in the South a war goal/as a gold

    Quote Originally Posted by anhnha View Post
    In September 1862, Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation made ending slavery in the South a war goal, and dissuaded the British from intervening.

    Is it better to write the bold phrase as "
    made ending slavery in the South as a war goal"?
    ("as" is added in the phrase above)

    No! The word 'as' is not needed.

    The Emancipation Proclamation made the eradication of slavery an explicit war goal, in addition to the goal of reuniting the Union. Furthermore, with the war now cast in terms of freedom against slavery, British or French support for the Confederacy would look like support for slavery, which both of these nations had abolished.

    A4

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    #4

    Re: made ending slavery in the South a war goal/as a gold

    I am getting confused about this. I think that I understand the meaning but can anyone tell me why it is not natural?
    I have just found an example from COCA:

    Just all the simple stuff, you know, they matter. You know, they're a big deal. MARTIN: Mm-hmm. What - and you mentioned earlier that you - I assume what you were saying is you'd like to become a parent yourself. What do you think you'll tell your children if you're fortunate enough to have them about this experience and how to handle themselves in situations? Mr-WILSON: I would tell them, you know, how it was before this situation, tell them what I had to endure and how it made me as a better person. And I would just tell them that, you know, it's hard, but, you know, if you truly believe in yourself, you know, fight for your cause, you know, in what you believe in, always stand up. And, you know, it's just, basically, it's just good to have, you know, faith in yourself, you know, even when no one else does.

    Is the phrase "it made me as a better person" natural here?
    And is there any difference in grammar structure between "it made me as a better person" and "made ending slavery in the South as a war goal"?

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    Re: made ending slavery in the South a war goal/as a gold

    Quote Originally Posted by anhnha View Post
    Is the phrase "it made me as a better person" natural here?
    No.

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    #6

    Re: made ending slavery in the South a war goal/as a gold

    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****

    Quote Originally Posted by anhnha View Post
    I think that I understand the meaning but can anyone tell me why it is not natural?
    Frequency determines whether a phrase is natural or unnatural.

    it made me a better person = 3,650 hits in Google Books.
    it made me as a better person = 0 hits in Google Books.

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    #7

    Re: made ending slavery in the South a war goal/as a gold

    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken Sandwich View Post
    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****



    Frequency determines whether a phrase is natural or unnatural.

    it made me a better person = 3,650 hits in Google Books.
    it made me as a better person = 0 hits in Google Books.
    Well, frequency and the fact that native speakers know it's incorrect.
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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