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    Default K sound in sanction

    Is the k sound in sanction really pronounced? I have listened to it many times but I can't recognize it.
    sanction /ˈsŋk.ʃən/ : sanction noun (ORDER) - definition in British English Dictionary & Thesaurus - Cambridge Dictionary Online
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    Default Re: K sound in sanction

    It's there.

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    Default Re: K sound in sanction

    Compare it with 'mansion' or 'scansion'. What you may often not hear is release of the closure (which isn't always made).

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    Default Re: K sound in sanction

    It's there.
    I think it can't recognize it because the sound /ŋ/ has the same position as /k/ sound.
    And, for example, there are two sounds that have the same position the one is put next the other like /gk/. How can I differentiate it from the case there is one sound?

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    Default Re: K sound in sanction

    Compare it with 'mansion' or 'scansion'. What you may often not hear is release of the closure (which isn't always made).
    Could you explain the phrase "release of the closure"?
    I can detect the k sound in
    scansion. In mansion, I don't see the k sound!

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    Default Re: K sound in sanction

    Quote Originally Posted by anhnha View Post
    Could you explain the phrase "release of the closure"?
    I can detect the k sound in
    scansion. In mansion, I don't see the k sound!
    When a native speaker says 'can', there is quite an explosive release of breath with the /k/. There is hardly any 'explosion' with the /k/ of 'scan' and none with th /k/ of 'sanction'. That's just the way it is - we don't do these things consciously.

    With 'mansion' and 'scansion', Bob was comparing the (absence) of /k/ between /n/ and /ʃ/ with the (presence of ) /k/ in 'sanction'.

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    Default Re: K sound in sanction

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    When a native speaker says 'can', there is quite an explosive release of breath with the /k/. There is hardly any 'explosion' with the /k/ of 'scan' and none with th /k/ of 'sanction'.
    The same thing happens with 'spin' and 'pin'. There is a small puff of air - aspiration - that accompanies the p in 'pin' but not in 'spin'.

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