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    Default about some "official" pronounciations that surprised me - other possibilities?

    As I just said in a different thread, I'm transcribing an English text into J.R.R. Tolkien's Tengwar symbols and have decided to go the phonological route. There is always the choice of transcribing orthographically (letter by letter) or phonologically (sound by sound).

    To avoid making mistakes, I referred to the pronunciations given in the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary.
    I am not a native English speaker, but at Grammar school I was always among the best students while having well-reputated teachers.

    So, when looking up the words now, I was well surprised in how many cases the "official" pronunciation differed from they way I pronounced all these words throughout my life till today. In the following lines, I'll list the word, followed by my Dictionary's pronunciation, followed by the way I would have pronounced it.
    I'd like to mention that I am looking for a pronunciation in a situation when reading out the words in a slow, celebratory, poetic way.

    written word
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    melody /ˈmelədɪ/
    /ˈmeləʊdɪ/ (when speaking slowly)
    to /tə/
    /tʊ/ (regardless of the following word)
    convey /kənˈveɪ/
    /kɔnˈveɪ/
    your /jɔ:r/
    /jɔr/
    until /ənˈtɪl/
    /ʌnˈtɪl/
    peacefully /pi:sfəlɪ/
    /pi:sfʊlɪ/ (when speaking slowly)
    heart /hɑ:t/
    /hɑ:rt/ ( Iwas so surprised, no /r/ sound??)

    Please tell me if my pronunciation would also be right for some of these words. If so, I'd naturally stick to the pronunciation I've grown familiar with.

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    Default Re: about some "official" pronounciations that surprised me - other possibilities?

    Your pronunciations would sound over-formal and a little unnatural in normal conversation. In many British accents, /r/ following a vowel is not pronounced unless it is itself followed by a vowel.
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    Default Re: about some "official" pronounciations that surprised me - other possibilities?

    Ah okay, that helps me :) As I said, in the case where I need the phonological transcription, it is not meant for "normal conversation" but rather a "blessing" or a bit poetic... should remind a little of "Old English". I even think about transcribing the word "conveyed" with three syllables: /kɔnˈveɪəd/

    Would, for that purpose, my transcription be okay? It shouldn't be too odd though.
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    Default Re: about some "official" pronounciations that surprised me - other possibilities?

    Quote Originally Posted by backonstage View Post
    A I even think about transcribing the word "conveyed" with three syllables: /kɔnˈveɪəd/

    Would, for that purpose, my transcription be okay? It shouldn't be too odd though.
    That would sound very strange to me.
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    Default Re: about some "official" pronounciations that surprised me - other possibilities?

    It would sound strange in conversation, but adding a syllable can be found in poetry, so if it's a deliberate attempt to imitate that, the extra syllable might work.

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