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    Default Are the two words of speaking and grammar parallel?

    I love the both of speaking and grammar.
    Someone said that this sentence isn't right because the two words of
    speaking and grammar are not parallel. He said the "grammar" should be writing for matching the "speaking" but I thought it has changed the meaning.

    Are the two words of speaking and grammar parallel? Does parallel structure depend on part of speech?
    Thank you so much!

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    Default Re: Are the two words of speaking and grammar parallel?

    Your original sentence is not right, regardless of parallelism.
    I love [both] speaking and grammar.

    But it's not parallel. "Speaking" is an action, while "grammar" is a noun.
    I like speaking in English and learning about its grammar.
    I like the sound and the grammar of English.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Default Re: Are the two words of speaking and grammar parallel?

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    How about this sentence, "The dictionary can be used to find: word meanings, pronunciations,correct spellings, and irregular verbs." (from:
    owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/623/1/).
    If this sentence is correct, why are "meanings" and "
    pronunciations" parallel?

    2.
    "It struck me as extraordinary that both of the two newspapers in Aberdeen completely ignored the environmental impacts this would have"(from:
    green.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/03/golf-course-vs-dunes-a-rebellion-that-failed/)
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    Multiple board service raises questions both of competence and commitment, governance specialists say." (from: nytimes.com/2012/05/27/business/james-breyer-a-director-with-irons-in-many-fires.html)
    Why can "both of ..." be used in the two sentences above?

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    Default Re: Are the two words of speaking and grammar parallel?

    Let's keep parallel structures and "both of the two" questions separate. You can start a new thread to talk about that if you wish.

    Meanings, pronunciations, spellings, and verb are all nouns.
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    Default Re: Are the two words of speaking and grammar parallel?

    However, "speaking" and "grammar" are nouns as well. why cannot they be parallel while "meanings" and "verbs" can be?

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    Default Re: Are the two words of speaking and grammar parallel?

    *NOT A TEACHER* If you are considering "speaking" as a noun, it is one of a unique class of nouns called gerunds. A gerund is a noun derived from a verb. "Grammar" is a noun, but is not derived from a verb and is not a gerund. Therefore the two are not parallel. Speaking and singing are both gerunds and are parallel. To talk and to sing are both infinitives and are considered to be parallel. Talked and sang are both active verbs and are parallel to each other. The following example is wrong because it attempts to parallel an infinitive with a subordinate clause. "He was told to report at the office and that he would find the instructions there." The same idea, with parallel infinitives, is correctly constructed as: "He was told to report at the office and to find the instructions there. Many people use the former construction without the least idea that it isn't correct grammar. Parallelism of ideas does not receive much attention in our public schools, but is emphasized to a considerable extent in many private ones.

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