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    #11

    Re: There is tresure in church

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I found it unnatural because it doesn't have any meaning that I can ascertain. "Treasure" is generally taken to mean 1) a box of gold coins (for example) or 2) a term of endearment ("Oh, you're a treasure for helping me mow my lawn") or, of course, it's a verb.

    The second meaning doesn't fit the sentence at all, and if you are talking about a hoard of ancient gold coins, then you would have to say that the treasure is/was [found] in a church and then, preferably, state which church (building) you are talking about.
    One could find treasure in church, a spiritual treasure. It doesn't have to be physical treasure. There are references in the Bible to storing up your treasures in Heaven.

    That said, I agree that "there is treasure in church" sounds odd.

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    #12

    Re: There is tresure in church

    Sorry, this will the last question to finalize this post. When I was in college in Canada, one day I called my Canadian friend to ask if we didn't have to go to school the next day as it was a national holiday.(I don't remember exactly what kind of holiday it was) - and he said "It's a holiday, but school is happening"

    1. By "school", did he mean generalization of school or school with the original purpose of school - studying?

    2. If I don't have to consider original purpose and it was "generalization", then when can you use the singluar form "school" and when for the plural form of "schools"?
    You normally don't say "Zoo is for watching animals." but "Zoos are for.." for the general idea of zoo. Or doesn't it have fixed and fast rule? It seems confusing as sometimes you can use "church" or "churches" for any random cases of general idea of church. Do I have to tell Koreans that there is no rule for singular or plural in general idea of nouns?
    Last edited by keannu; 31-Jan-2013 at 15:39.

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    #13

    Re: There is tresure in church

    I did suggest that you forget the 'original purpose' idea. I have also suggested, in other threads, that you stop trying to shoehorn eveyr utterance into a limited number of labelled categories. Language cannot be compartmentalised in this way - at least, English can't.

    When your friend said, "School is happening", s/he was telling you that normal lessons would take place, that the next day (despite it being officially a holiday) was a normal school day.

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