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    Red face The reasons are twofold, with...

    Dear teachers,


    I have recently come across a sentence:
    "The reasons for this phenomenon is threefold, with poverty being the first."

    I don't quite understand the sentence structure, especially the phrase starting with "with". What is the function of "with" here? Is the phrase a participial phrase?

    Can I write this instead?
    "The reasons for this phenomenon is threefold, poverty being the first."

    I would be grateful if any of you can help.


    Cheers,

    Roscela

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    Default Re: The reasons are twofold, with...

    You can omit "with" if you wish. However, there is a problem with the original. It should read "The reasons for this phenomenon are​ threefold ..." The verb needs to agree with "reasons".
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    Default Re: The reasons are twofold, with...

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    You can omit "with" if you wish. However, there is a problem with the original. It should read "The reasons for this phenomenon are​ threefold ..." The verb needs to agree with "reasons".
    Thank you for the reply, but I would love to know why "with" can be omitted.

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    Default Re: The reasons are twofold, with...

    It can be omitted because it is unnecessary.

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    Default Re: The reasons are twofold, with...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    It can be omitted because it is unnecessary.
    Unnecessary does not mean it's wrong- you can remove it, but leaving it in is not an error.

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    Default Re: The reasons are twofold, with...

    We can say "it is not obligatory" rather than "unnecessary" if that helps. It is optional.
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 04-Feb-2013 at 18:18. Reason: Trying to clear up confusion
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    Default Re: The reasons are twofold, with...

    I was just trying to add something.

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    Default Re: The reasons are twofold, with...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    I was just trying to add something.
    Sorry, for some reason I thought I had posted about it being unnecessary! I didn't - you did. I've edited post #6 in light of that.
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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