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    Default She was even prettier

    Is my interpretation in 2 correct? I'd like to know if "even" can be used as "too, also, as well" depending on context.

    1. I saw four girls. Three of them were tall. The other girl was even taller. (even = to a greater degree, emphasizing taller)
    2. I saw four girls. Three of them were tall. The other girl was the tallest. She was even prettier.(even = as well, too)

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    Default Re: She was even prettier

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    Is my interpretation in 2 correct? I'd like to know if "even" can be used as "too, also, as well" depending on context.

    1. I saw four girls. Three of them were tall. The other girl was even taller. (even = to a greater degree, emphasizing taller)
    2. I saw four girls. Three of them were tall. The other girl was the tallest. She was even prettier.(even = as well, too)
    No, that's not natural.

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    Default Re: She was even prettier

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    Is my interpretation in 2 correct? I'd like to know if "even" can be used as "too, also, as well" depending on context.

    1. I saw four girls. Three of them were tall. The other girl was even taller. (even = to a greater degree, emphasizing taller)
    2. I saw four girls. Three of them were tall. The other girl was the tallest. She was even prettier.(even = as well, too)
    If you saw four girls and they were all tall, it would be perverse to say that three of them were tall.
    You might say, "I saw four girls. Three of them were fairly tall, but the fourth girl was a giant!"
    No, 'even' doesn't mean that.

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    Default Re: She was even prettier

    not a teacher

    If you were, in the words of the song, "a girl watcher, watchin' girls go by", then you might say: "I saw four girls, the first three were tall but the fourth was even taller, and prettier too".

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    Default Re: She was even prettier

    In another thread several months ago, you seem to have said that "even" can be used as "also, as well, too", so I doubt if it can be used in two ways of "much, still, far" and that kind of "also, as well, etc", but now you seem to be saying the opposite thing. Anyway, I found "yet, still", a very different definition like the following, so the three definitions are still ailing me. Please get me out of this confusion!!!

    Even | Define Even at Dictionary.com
    15. still; yet (used to emphasize a comparative): even more suitable.

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    Default Re: She was even prettier

    Joan was pretty; Mary was even prettier. That's fine.

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    Default Re: She was even prettier

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    Joan was pretty; Mary was even prettier. That's fine.
    Yes it is, but it doesn't mean "Joan was pretty; Mary was also pretty / Mary was pretty too", which is how keannu wants to use it.

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    Default Re: She was even prettier

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    Yes it is, but it doesn't mean "Joan was pretty; Mary was also pretty / Mary was pretty too", which is how keannu wants to use it.
    I agree. I did not pay enough attention to that point.
    Last edited by 5jj; 11-Feb-2013 at 06:23.

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