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    Post Using relative pronounce in formal letters!

    Could you help me with the formal letters?
    Which sentence is more suitable for the formal letters?
    1. There were more things with which we were not satisfied .
    2. There were more things we were not satisfied with.
    I know that in formal letters relative pronouns are not omitted and prepositions are not at the end of the sentence. Is it correct or not?
    Thank you for the assistance!

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    Re: Using relative pronounce in formal letters!

    Quote Originally Posted by Martina Durisova View Post
    Could you help me with the formal letters?
    Which sentence is more suitable for the formal letters?

    1. There were more things with which we were not satisfied .
    2. There were more things we were not satisfied with.

    I know that in formal letters relative pronouns are not omitted and prepositions are not at the end of the sentence. Is it correct or not?
    Thank you for the assistance!

    Formal letter or otherwise, I find the "with which we were" construction very wordy and unnecessary. You could say "There were other things which failed to satisfy us" or "There were other things which disappointed us".

    Don't believe the urban myth that we don't end sentences with prepositions. We do. It's fine.
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Re: Using relative pronounce in formal letters!

    I'm not sure why you felt the need to use an exclamation point in your thread title.

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    Re: Using relative pronounce in formal letters!

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post

    Don't believe the urban myth that we don't end sentences with prepositions. We do. It's fine.
    Is it an "an urban myth" or a rule was invented by Robert Lowth ?


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    Re: Using relative pronounce in formal letters!

    Lowth was indeed one of the first, if not the first to object to the sentence-ending preposition, of which he wrote disapprovingly, "This is an Idiom which our language is strongly inclined to".
    Last edited by 5jj; 06-Mar-2013 at 17:23.

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    Re: Using relative pronounce in formal letters!

    The type of nonsense up with which I will not put.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Using relative pronounce in formal letters!

    Quote Originally Posted by Odessa Dawn View Post
    Is it an "an urban myth" or a rule was invented by Robert Lowth ?

    As far as I'm concerned, no one person can just "invent a rule" to be followed in a language. It's a myth that one must not finish a sentence with a preposition.
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    Re: Using relative pronounce in formal letters!

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    As far as I'm concerned, no one person can just "invent a rule" to be followed in a language. It's a myth that one must not finish a sentence with a preposition.
    It is indeed a myth, but many people believe it to be a rule and some have presented it as such. In that Lowth appears to have been the first to have expressed disapproval of this usage, it doesn't seem to me to be too much a stretch to say he invented the rule.

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