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    Dear Gentlemen,

    I am a new member in this forum. In fact, I am Arabian guy. Usually, I ask how to use vocabulary correctly regarding for its use, slang, formal, spoken, or any other recognition of use. Please, just guide me to for suitable forum in order not to bother you. I have asked about the differences between some words, yet I have got no answer. I esteem your tolerance and understanding for my case, but you mentioned that I should consult dictionaries. I swear, I looked on dictionaries, but still there is very close meaning among them. I solely needed tell me one word for each one. Like, this vocabulary "CHEAT​" is always used for relationship. "DECEIVE" is used when someone breaks a promise, and so on. The dictionary do not use this kind of explanation, never.

    All in all, that what I wanted to tell you.

    Sincerely,

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    Default Re: How can I ask ? Please.

    Quote Originally Posted by engloshy View Post
    Dear Gentlemen,

    I am a new member in this forum. In fact, I am Arabian guy. Usually, I ask how to use vocabulary correctly regarding for its use, slang, formal, spoken, or any other recognition of use. Please, just guide me to for suitable forum in order not to bother you. I have asked about the differences between some words, yet I have got no answer. I esteem your tolerance and understanding for my case, but you mentioned that I should consult dictionaries. I swear, I looked on dictionaries, but still there is very close meaning among them. I solely needed tell me one word for each one. Like, this vocabulary "CHEAT​" is always used for relationship. "DECEIVE" is used when someone breaks a promise, and so on. The dictionary do not use this kind of explanation, never.

    All in all, that what I wanted to tell you.

    Sincerely,
    "cheat" is not "always used for relationships" and "deceive" has uses other than breaking promises.
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 12-Mar-2013 at 20:41. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by engloshy View Post
    Dear Gentlemen,

    I am a new member in this forum. In fact, I am Arabian guy. Usually, I ask how to use vocabulary correctly regarding for its use, slang, formal, spoken, or any other recognition of use. Please, just guide me to for suitable forum in order not to bother you. I have asked about the differences between some words, yet I have got no answer. I esteem your tolerance and understanding for my case, but you mentioned that I should consult dictionaries. I swear, I looked on dictionaries, but still there is very close meaning among them. I solely needed tell me one word for each one. Like, this vocabulary "CHEAT​" is always used for relationship. "DECEIVE" is used when someone breaks a promise, and so on. The dictionary do not use this kind of explanation, never.

    All in all, that what I wanted to tell you.

    Sincerely,
    Arab not Arabian.
    Example:
    I am an Arab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by engloshy View Post
    Dear Gentlemen,

    I am a new member in this forum. In fact, I am Arabian guy. Usually, I ask how to use vocabulary correctly regarding for its use, slang, formal, spoken, or any other recognition of use. Please, just guide me to for suitable forum in order not to bother you. I have asked about the differences between some words, yet I have got no answer. I esteem your tolerance and understanding for my case, but you mentioned that I should consult dictionaries. I swear, I looked on dictionaries, but still there is very close meaning among them. I solely needed tell me one word for each one. Like, this vocabulary "CHEAT​" is always used for relationship. "DECEIVE" is used when someone breaks a promise, and so on. The dictionary do not use this kind of explanation, never.

    All in all, that what I wanted to tell you.

    Sincerely,
    I'm afraid you will be disappointed if you expect us to give just one single definition or usage for words which you post. I can think of at least three different ways of using the word "cheat".

    As far as your assertion that dictionaries do not give the kind of explanation that you cited, I'm not sure which dictionaries you are using but here is a perfect example from the Oxford Dictionaries website: Definition of cheat in Oxford Dictionaries (British & World English). You will see quite clearly that it gives a definition of the word "cheat" as "to be sexually unfaithful i.e. his wife was cheating on him".

    Sometimes, English words which have very similar meanings are interchangeable, sometimes they're not. Unfortunately, you just have to learn their usage as your English knowledge progresses.

    Please also note that it is inappropriate to start your posts with "Dear Gentlemen". Not only is "Dear [anything]" overly formal, but many of us are female.
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 12-Mar-2013 at 20:51.
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Mr. Dawn,

    Arabian is an adjective stands for indicate the nation that a person was born in or their descent from an Arabian country. So, Arab is a noun. It doesn't show or describe for which country I belong. Sometimes "Arab" could be an adjective when two nouns come together like "Arab nations" but "Arabian students" tells us who they are (the students).

    Have a blessed day.

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    In BrE, neither "Arab" nor "Arabian" tell us which country you are from. According to your profile, you are from Iraq, so if you wanted to let us know which country you were from, you would say "I am an Iraqi guy".
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Default Re: How can I ask ? Please.

    Quote Originally Posted by engloshy View Post
    Dear Gentlemen,

    I am a new member in this forum. In fact, I am Arabian guy. Usually, I ask how to use vocabulary correctly regarding for its use, slang, formal, spoken, or any other recognition of use. Please, just guide me to for suitable forum in order not to bother you. I have asked about the differences between some words, yet I have got no answer. I esteem your tolerance and understanding for my case, but you mentioned that I should consult dictionaries. I swear, I looked on dictionaries, but still there is very close meaning among them. I solely needed tell me one word for each one. Like, this vocabulary "CHEAT​" is always used for relationship. "DECEIVE" is used when someone breaks a promise, and so on. The dictionary do not use this kind of explanation, never.

    All in all, that what I wanted to tell you.

    Sincerely,
    Have you tried using a corpus alongside your dictionary? They're very useful for understanding fine distinctions like these. A corpus is a "body" of text which has been classified so you can search through it and find connections and common uses.

    Go to JustTheWord, enter the word you want to study and hit enter or click "combinations". The dictionary tells you what the word means, but a corpus will let you see how people use the word. If you look at the results for "cheat," first you'll notice that there are more results for "a cheat" and "cheat on" than the others. If you click on those words, you will see those expressions used in real, natural English sentences. They are very short examples, but you should be able to work out the meaning in context for some of them by using your dictionary and your intuition. This way you can see how words are actually used, as opposed to just what they mean.

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    It could be worth checking this thread:
    http://www.usingenglish.com/forum/as...c-arabian.html

    "Arabian" is not only used as an adjective for Saudi Arabia. The adjective most often used for Saudi Arabia, I'd say, is 'Saudi'.
    For example, this site, Arabian Adventures, is advertising holidays in Dubai and UAE.
    Arabian Adventures Reviews - Dubai, Emirate of Dubai Attractions - TripAdvisor

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    Quote Originally Posted by engloshy View Post
    Mr. Dawn,

    Arabian is an adjective stands for indicate the nation that a person was born in or their descent from an Arabian country. So, Arab is a noun. It doesn't show or describe for which country I belong. Sometimes "Arab" could be an adjective when two nouns come together like "Arab nations" but "Arabian students" tells us who they are (the students).

    Have a blessed day.
    Thank you dear brother from cherished Mesopotamia for your comment and being here among great UE members. An English teacher, at Umm Al-Qura University by the name of Dr. Hasan Ghazala, has told me not to say "I am Arabian." Besides, the below quotation might help you.
    Arab is now generally used in reference to people; the use of Arabian in this sense is historical
    differences - "Arab" or "Arabic" or "Arabian"? - English Language and Usage

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    Thank you so much guys for your cooperation.

    Sir/Madam Emsr2d2,

    I used gentlemen because I am talking (contact) with a group of people and I don't know their gender in general.

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