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    See = consider sometimes

    1) I see it as a great chance.

    2) I consider it as a great chance.

    3) I see him to be kind.

    4) I consider him to be kind.

    5) He is seen to be kind.

    6) He is considered to be kind.

    I have learned that see sometimes is used for the same meaning as consider, but I have never seen sentences like #3, so they are not 100% identical, are they? And how about #5? I have seen an example in a dictionary.

    Thank you so much.

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    Re: See = consider sometimes

    As an NES but not a teacher, I don't have any problems with the sentences as written.
    "Seeing" is "perceiving"!
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    Re: See = consider sometimes



    Sorry, but why do you say that you have no problem with #2?

    See:
    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    Because we don't say "I consider something as ..."
    http://www.usingenglish.com/forum/as...tml#post966457

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    Re: See = consider sometimes

    #2 and #3 are incorrect.

    2. I consider it [to be] a great chance.
    3. I see him as kind.
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Re: See = consider sometimes

    See the usage note on the following webpage related to "as":
    As - definition of As by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

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    "As" is sometimes used superfluously to introduce the complements of verbs like consider, deem, and account, as in:

    "They considered it as one of the landmark decisions of the civil rights movement."
    "The measure was deemed as unnecessary."

    This usage may have arisen by analogy to regard and esteem, with which "as" is standardly used in this way:
    "We regarded her as the best writer among us."
    But the use of "as" with verbs like "consider" is not sufficiently well established to be acceptable in writing."
    Unquote.

    What it appears to mean, in essence, is that although "as" may be widely used by an NES, in this context, it is is not sufficiently well established to be acceptable in writing. As such, it would be unacceptable in an English examination situation and therefore needs to be avoided by students of English.

    I trust my interpretation is a fair one.

    Maybe time will tell?

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    Re: See = consider sometimes

    Thank you so much and how can adjectives come after as? As is a preposition, isn't it?

    "See the glass as half full, not half empty."

    Half full and half empty are also adjectives, but I do not know how it is possible. The sentence structure is okay to use? I think as should change to to be. What do you think?

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    Re: See = consider sometimes

    As an NES but not a teacher, consider:

    The glass is green
    The glass is half full
    .... see the glass as [being] half full.

    Does this help?

    Regards
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    PS: Please, please bear in mind the caveat in my previous post concerning potential non-applicability in English exams.

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