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    Is sentence 2 grammatically correct?

    1. Except guide dogs, no animals can't get into the restaurant.
    2. Except guide dogs, any animals can't get into the restaurant.

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    Default Re: no/any

    As an NES but not a teacher, neither sentence reads correctly or makes any sense.

    1. Contains a double negative and by "get" I assume you mean "allowed".
    2. "Any" is inappropriate and "get" should be "allowed".

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    PS: An animal might be able to get in via an abnormal route, whether they are allowed or not (e.g. a mouse, snake, cat or even a dog).
    Last edited by Route21; 30-Apr-2013 at 05:32. Reason: PS added

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    Default Re: no/any

    Sorry, I made a mistake in #1. It should be written as:

    1. Except guide dogs, no animals can get into the restaurant.

    Is the correct wording as:
    Except guide dogs, no animals are allowed into the restaurant.

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    Default Re: no/any

    Quote Originally Posted by Route21 View Post
    As an NES but not a teacher, neither sentence reads correctly or makes any sense.

    1. Contains a double negative and by "get" I assume you mean "allowed".
    2. "Any" is inappropriate and "get" should be "allowed".

    Regards
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    PS: An animal might be able to get in via an abnormal route, whether they are allowed or not (e.g. a mouse, snake, cat or even a dog).
    "get" is used in the context of entering a place. "I couldn't get into the restaurant because I didn't have a reservation", or, "I couldn't get in the car since you had the keys", is acceptable in the US.

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    Default Re: no/any

    Quote Originally Posted by Gillnetter View Post
    "get" is used in the context of entering a place. "I couldn't get into the restaurant because I didn't have a reservation", or, "I couldn't get in the car since you had the keys", is acceptable in the US.
    It's also acceptable in BrE. However, as R21 pointed out, animals can get into restaurants even if they are not allowed, so 'allowed' is a better word here, in my opinion.

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