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    Default He is studying/learning to play the piano.

    Study-to spend time reading, going to classes etc in order to learn about a subject. http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/learn

    Learn-to gain knowledge of a subject or skill, by experience, by studying it, or by being taught
    . http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/learn

    Some people said “To study is the action” and “To learn is the result of that action”. It seems that there are some differences.

    I wonder if there is a difference in the following sentences:

    1.He is studying to play the piano.

    2. He is learning to play the piano.

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: He is studying/learning to play the piano.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winwin2011 View Post
    Study-to spend time reading, going to classes etc in order to learn about a subject. learn - Definition from Longman English Dictionary Online

    Learn-to gain knowledge of a subject or skill, by experience, by studying it, or by being taught
    . http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/learn

    Some people said “To study is the action” and “To learn is the result of that action”. It seems that there are some differences.

    I wonder if there is a difference in the following sentences:

    1.He is studying to play the piano.

    2. He is learning to play the piano.

    Thanks.
    The first one is not natural English.

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    Default Re: He is studying/learning to play the piano.

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    The first one is not natural English.
    Thanks, bhai.

    How "studying" is not natural English in the first one?

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    Default Re: He is studying/learning to play the piano.

    How is "studying" is not natural English in the first one?
    Native speakers do not use that collocation.

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    Default Re: He is studying/learning to play the piano.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    Native speakers do not use that collocation.

    Rover
    I wonder if there is a difference in the following sentences:

    1. Why are you studying English?
    2. Why are you learning English?

    Some people said “To study is the action” and “To learn is the result of that action”. Do you agree?

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: He is studying/learning to play the piano.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winwin2011 View Post
    I wonder if there is a difference in the following sentences:

    1. Why are you studying English?
    2. Why are you learning English?
    There could well be. Most native speakers study English at school. Many non-native speakers in this forum are trying to learn English. I studied English and French at university. I didn't need to learn English. Studying French was fascinating and I acquired an impressive knowledge of the rules of French grammar and of the works of obscure French writers, but I didn't actually learn much French.
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    Default Re: He is studying/learning to play the piano.

    "Studying" to play the piano sounds as if the person is reading books about the piano, about the theory of playing the piano, how a piano works etc. It doesn't sound as if the person is actually sitting at a piano, playing music.

    Having said that, if someone attends music college, they would say "I'm studying piano at Juilliard". They wouldn't say "I'm studying to play the piano at Juilliard".
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Default Re: He is studying/learning to play the piano.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winwin2011 View Post
    I wonder if there is a difference in the following sentences:

    1. Why are you studying English?
    2. Why are you learning English?

    Some people said “To study is the action” and “To learn is the result of that action”. Do you agree?

    Thanks.
    As an NES but not a teacher, and as a follow-on from 5jj's post, the difference would appear, to me, to be:

    a) I would "study" English to obtain a higher academic standard, which, I hope, would enable me to get a better, more well-paid job than otherwise, in fields where such qualifications were deemed to matter.

    b) I would "learn" English to enable me to communicate successfully with other English speakers particularly in cases where command of the English language mattered more than which one of many possibly different English academic qualifications was or was not appropriate.

    i.e. it's basically a case of "proven" (not internet purchased etc) educational/professional qualifications vs proven ability to perform the job required or theory vs practice.

    In my pre-retirement life, clients normally looked for degree qualified personnel, whereas contractors needed to have experienced personnel, who, hopefully, automatically do close enough to the "right" thing first time (time means money). I was fortunate to find sufficient acceptance in both camps. There's an old saying that the best gamekeeper is an ex-poacher (which may now include security specialists vs hackers etc)!

    Hope this helps
    Regards
    R21

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    Default Re: He is studying/learning to play the piano.

    Many thanks to all of you for your help.

    Tom (British) and John (Chinese) are roommates. Tom doesn't go to school to study Chinese. John teaches Tom Chinese and Tom teaches John English.

    Which of the following sentences is natural in the above context?

    John: Tom is studiying Chinese from me.
    John: Tom is learning Chinese from me.

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: He is studying/learning to play the piano.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winwin2011 View Post
    Thanks.
    Neither is particularly natural, though the second is less unnatural.
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