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    Sorina Madalina Albu is offline Newbie
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    Default HELP !

    Point out the difference in meaning between the Ss below by translating or explaining it in your own words:
    a) He paid him to translate the essay.
    b) He paid him for translating the essay.

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    You should write the subject in the title, not just HELP!
    In the first case he paid before the translation was done.
    In the second sentence he paid for the job that had already been done.
    That's how I see it.
    If I were a native speaker of English, I would never shut up. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by englishhobby View Post
    You should write the subject in the title, not just HELP!
    In the first case he paid before the translation was done.
    In the second sentence he paid for the job that had already been done.
    That's how I see it.
    In the first case he could have been paid before, during or after. Context would determine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    In the first case he could have been paid before, during or after. Context would determine.
    I thought in the first case there was an idea of paying with a certain intention/purpose in mind...
    If I were a native speaker of English, I would never shut up. :-)

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    Default Re: HELP !

    Imagine this conversation:

    It was nice of Bob to translate that essay for you.

    Nice?! I paid him to translate the essay!
    Or

    I paid him to translate the essay and he'll be finished with it by Monday morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorina Madalina Albu View Post
    Point out the difference in meaning between the Ss below by translating or explaining it in your own words:
    a) He paid him to translate the essay.
    b) He paid him for translating the essay.
    1. Is this homework?
    2. Have you learnt the word "please" yet?
    3. "HELP !" is not an appropriate title. It should include some or all of the words you are querying.
    4. "Ss" is not a recognised abbreviation. I assume you meant "sentences".
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Default Re: HELP !

    =SoothingDave;981030]
    Imagine this conversation:
    It was nice of Bob to translate that essay for you.

    Nice?! I paid him to translate the essay!
    Or
    I paid him to translate the essay and he'll be finished with it by Monday morning.
    Still it appears to me that in each of the above examples "paying" happened BEFORE "translating"...
    Last edited by 5jj; 10-May-2013 at 21:53. Reason: White space reduction
    If I were a native speaker of English, I would never shut up. :-)

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    Default Re: HELP !

    No, the actual payment could happen after the work is done. On Monday, I ask you to translate something for me. On Tuesday, you finish the work and then I pay you. On Wednesday, I say "I paid him to do this." The payment happened in the past (before I said it on Wednesday), but the payment happened after the work was done.

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