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    Default "And I heard the L-rd G-d say to me -- my name is I am".

    "I was regretting the past and I was fearing the future. And I heard the L-rd G-d say to me -- my name is I am. If you live in the past, it will be very hard for I am not there. My name is not I was. And if you live in the future, it will be very hard for my name is not I will be. But if you live in the present, it is not hard for my name is I am".



    I failed to pick up the appropriate punctuation mark.
    Are the two hyphens acceptable after the word me, please?

    Last edited by Odessa Dawn; 16-May-2013 at 13:07. Reason: Grammatical mistake.

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    Default Re: "And I heard the L-rd G-d say to me -- my name is I am".

    Quote Originally Posted by Odessa Dawn View Post
    "I was regretting the past and I was fearing the future. And I heard the L-rd G-d say to me -- my name is I am. If you live in the past, it will be very hard for I am not there. My name is not I was. And if you live in the future, it will be very hard for my name is not I will be. But if you live in the present, it is not hard for my name is I am".



    I failed to pick up the appropriate punctuation mark.
    Are the two hyphens acceptable after the word me, please?

    Personally, I would use inverted commas: And I heard the L-rd G-d say to me, "my name is I am."

    Others (esp. natives) might have different/more correct views.

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    Please be aware that I'm neither a native English speaker nor a teacher.

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    Default Re: "And I heard the L-rd G-d say to me -- my name is I am".

    Yes, as a direct quote, it should indeed be enclosed in quotation marks.
    However, the two hyphens are often used in typing when the em-dash is not available. I'm often lazy and use one.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Default Re: "And I heard the L-rd G-d say to me -- my name is I am".

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    However, the two hyphens are often used in typing when the em-dash is not available. I'm often lazy and use one.
    Just as an aside, when would you use an m-dash rather than an n-dash?
    I must admit, I've never deliberately used an m-dash.

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    Default Re: "And I heard the L-rd G-d say to me -- my name is I am".

    Quote Originally Posted by Route21 View Post
    Just as an aside, when would you use an m-dash rather than an n-dash?
    I must admit, I've never deliberately used an m-dash.

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    Honestly, I have been reading all day long, but I sure you that the best lesson I leaned today is Route21's using of indefinite article, an. Thank you, Route21.
    M, m noun (LETTER) - /em/
    N, n noun (LETTER) - /en/



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    Default Re: "And I heard the L-rd G-d say to me -- my name is I am".

    I've never knowingly used an m-dash either, except when I was using some old typesetting software called VAX DOCUMENT (I say 'old', but it was the latest thing at the time). A pair of hyphens in the source file produced the output 'blahblahblah--blahblah--blahblahblah', and the manual called this 'an n-dash'. But if you wanted your dashes to mark a parenthesis (with space each side of the dash: 'blahblahblah -- blahblah -- blahblahblah') you had to use three hyphens; the output was described in the manual as 'an m-dash'. But the dash was the same length in either case! To avoid the rather ugly spaceless version I always used '---'.

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    Default Re: "And I heard the L-rd G-d say to me -- my name is I am".

    I will use "--" to indicate that I intend a dash instead of a hyphen. If it was being typeset or prepared for publication, I would expect an em dash there.

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    Default Re: "And I heard the L-rd G-d say to me -- my name is I am".

    En-dashes are used to connect times, dates, etc. to show continuity. 7–9 pm. May–October 2013.
    Em-dashes are what most people think of simply as dashes (and have a bunch of uses).

    People in my profession care about this. Most mortals do not.

    — em dash
    – en dash
    - hyphen
    Last edited by Barb_D; 16-May-2013 at 17:43.
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    Default Re: "And I heard the L-rd G-d say to me -- my name is I am".

    I was regretting the past and I was fearing the future. And I heard the L-rd G-d say to me --my name is I am.

    What is the source of your quotation, Odessa Dawn?

    Many years have passed since anybody has found it necessary to avoid writing 'Lord God' in full.

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    Default Re: "And I heard the L-rd G-d say to me -- my name is I am".

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    What is the source of your quotation, Odessa Dawn?
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    Here is the source of my quotation:

    The whole quotation starts at the thirty minute time (30:40). And the underlined part is at (30:50).

    One man put it this way, I was regretting the past and I was fearing the future. And I heard the L-rd G-d say to me, 'My name is I am'. If you live in the past, it will be very hard for I am not there. My name is not I was. And if you live in the future, it will be very hard for my name is not I will be. But if you live in the present, it is not hard for my name is I am. G-d is the G-d of your today. G-d will help you deal with the problems of today. He will be for you tomorrow but tomorrow will be your today when you get there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    Many years have passed since anybody has found it necessary to avoid writing 'Lord God' in full.
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    Thank you so very much for your valid point. Yes, your words are worthy of eternal praise.


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