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    Mark had a very busy morning,by the time he stopped for lunch he .......... 17 phone calls.

    (made-had made-had been making-have made)

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    Hello hanofty, and welcome to our forums.

    Here are a few things to know:
    1. We answer questions only when we know it's not your homework, because your teachers need to know what you can do, not what we can do. If do submit your homework (or take a test) and don't understand why something is wrong, we can help then.

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    3. We would like you to use a title for your thread that tells us something about the question. Almost everyone who comes here has grammar questions. You could have called this one "made/had made" for example.

    If you can tell us that this isn't homework, and which answers you know are wrong, or which one you think is right, we can help you from there.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Hello Barb_D , Thanks for your quick reply & sorry for being late

    First, Actually it's not a homework & It has nothing to do with teachers or school.

    Second, I probably know the right answer which is (had made) but one of my friends had a different answer which was (had been making) & he was so determined about his answer saying that it just need quite a long time to make 17 phone calls that's why it should be (had been making)
    Actually Right now I'm so confused about it, but I still think my another is right & that's why I came here just to make sure.

    Finally, Thanks a lot for your efforts hope to see your reply soon :)

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    had made

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanofty View Post
    Mark had a very busy morning,by the time he stopped for lunch he .......... 17 phone calls.

    (made-had made-had been making-have made)
    I would suggest "had made", but "made" would not be wrong.

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    Yes, you're right. It's "had made."
    Note the sentence also has a comma splice. You need to replace the comma with a period (or possibly semi-colon).
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanofty View Post
    Second, I probably know the right answer which is (had made) but one of my friends had a different answer which was (had been making) & he was so determined about his answer saying that it just need quite a long time to make 17 phone calls that's why it should be (had been making)
    Tell your friend that it doesn't matter how long it took. The phone calls all happened in the past, so they are done.
    "By the time Mr X died in 2010, he had made 17 billion dollars." That's over a lifetime, and there's no need for a continuous tense; it's finished.

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    By the time he stopped for lunch, he had made seventeen phone calls.
    Before he stopped for lunch, he made seventeen phone calls.

    In BrE at least, using "made" after "By the time" here would be wrong.
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Thank you all for your obvious explanation & for your quick replies :)

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