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Naeem Afzal

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Hi teachers,


My voice/throat is hoarse. It means I can't speak properly.
I have a sore throat. OR My throat is sore. It means I can't eat, swallow or drink properly. Am I right?


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Hi teachers,


My voice/throat is hoarse. It means I can't speak properly.
I have a sore throat. OR My throat is sore. It means I can't eat, swallow or drink properly. Am I right?
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Hoarseness refers to the sound of the voice. Soreness refers to pain. They are completely different things, and they can occur together, or separately. If you tell someone you have a sore throat (in speech), they should know whether it's also hoarse or not. That is, hoarseness is a sign, while soreness is a symptom, as we say in medicine.
 

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You might have a sore throat. You might have a hoarse voice. You might have both. You might have one or the other. You might have neither.
 

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In short, you can't have either a sore voice or a hoarse throat.. ;-)

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In short, you can't have either a sore voice or a hoarse throat.. ;-)

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How is the learner to interpret this, Bob?
ems says you can have one or the other: "You might have one or the other". And you say you can't have either one or the other.
I think I know what you mean, but many wouldn't.
 

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How is the learner to interpret this, Bob?
ems says you can have one or the other: "You might have one or the other". And you say you can't have either one or the other.
I think I know what you mean, but many wouldn't.

You can't have a hoarse throat. You can't have a sore voice. You can't have either one of them (meaning "You can have neither. Neither is possible").
 

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How is the learner to interpret this, Bob?
ems says you can have one or the other: "You might have one or the other". And you say you can't have either one or the other.
I think I know what you mean, but many wouldn't.

I don't see the problem. Sore doesn't collocate with voice; hoarse doesn't collocate with throat. This is because, as you said, soreness and hoarseness are different aspects of a problem which may or may not be associated. Nothing Ems said suggested that they did collocate. I think you're seeing a learner problem where there isn't one. (I might of course be wrong - ;-) but I don't see how my post could have been confusing.)

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I don't see the problem. Sore doesn't collocate with voice; hoarse doesn't collocate with throat. This is because, as you said, soreness and harseness are different aspects of a problem which may or may not be associated. Nothing Ems said suggested that they did collocate. I think you're seeing a learner problem where there isn't one. (I might of course be wrong - ;-) but I don't see how my post could have been confusing.)

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Thanks Bob, ems has explained the point that I overlooked in your post, and I acknowledged that explanation.
 
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