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    Quote Originally Posted by euncu View Post
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    But the present perfect would be unusual.
    Hello,

    I'm a bit confused about the answers. I thought when someone tell me that they have come , I take it as they mean they have just come. Dropping the word "just" and using the present perfect, to my opinion , should give us the same idea. Am I right or is my interpretation wrong?
    I am afraid such precision of meaning is not available in actual usage. I got here, I've got here, and in AmE I've gotten here, all just mean that I have arrived. None of them says anything about time.

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    Re: I`ve got a problem with *have got*

    Time is not suggested. For example, I went to stay at a hotel for a long weekend (in BrE, that's from Friday until Monday). I arrived at the hotel at 5pm on Friday and at 5.30 someone asked me "How did you get here?" My reply would be "I got the train to Ventnor and then I got the bus". I enjoy a fun weekend and on Sunday afternoon at 3pm, someone else asks me "How did you get here?" My reply would be exactly the same "I got the train to Ventnor and then got the bus". They might then ask "How long have you been here?" and I would say "I got here on Friday afternoon at about 5".
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Re: I`ve got a problem with *have got*

    Way back in the 40s and 50s our English teachers always told us to try and not use the word "got" but use another word in its place if possible. I think they were on to something.

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    Re: I`ve got a problem with *have got*

    I have just spoken to the wife about the use of the word "got" and she, like me was told by her English teacher in Port Elizabeth, South Africa, never use the word "got" but use a more suitable word. My education was in North London.

    I do believe that our schooling and especially the use of the English language was far superior than is taught in schools today.

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    Re: I`ve got a problem with *have got*

    Quote Originally Posted by Esprit View Post
    I have just spoken to the wife
    While you'll often hear 'the wife', many people regard this as disparaging. 'My wife' is the preferred form;
    I do believe that our schooling and especially the use of the English language was far superior than is taught in schools today.
    People have been saying that for centuries. The language changes and, as we get older, we tend to think of the usages of our grandparents' time as superior to those of our children's time.

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    Re: I`ve got a problem with *have got*

    Sorry 5jj but I feel that saying "my wife" is demeaning to her, virtually saying that she is my property, rather than an equal. I know "the wife" is incorrect unless one is saying "the wife of so and so" but what other terminology could I use which is more suitable. I know that I do not hear of women talking about "the husband" but use "my husband". I suppose that I am just a little over sensitive about doing an injustice to women.

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    Re: I`ve got a problem with *have got*

    Quote Originally Posted by Esprit View Post
    Sorry 5jj but I feel that saying "my wife" is demeaning to her, virtually saying that she is my property, rather than an equal.
    Well that's what is natural to most native speakers. A so-called 'possessive' form, such as John's/his/my/etc father/brother/wife/sister/job/university/boss/whatever does not imply possession or property unless the context makes this clear.

    What do you say when I would say, "My boss invited my wife and me to dinner last week. We met his wife for the first time. What a bore! She spent the whole evening taking about their children."

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    Re: I`ve got a problem with *have got*

    "What do you say when I would say, "My boss invited my wife and me to dinner last week".

    I would say that it is bad English to say my wife and me, surely it should be my wife and I, but there again, what do I know.

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    Re: I`ve got a problem with *have got*

    Quote Originally Posted by Esprit View Post
    "What do you say when I would say, "My boss invited my wife and me to dinner last week".

    I would say that it is bad English to say "my wife and me",; surely it should be "my wife and I", but there again, what do I know?.
    My wife and I went to the party. Subject
    The host greeted my wife and me. Object.

    Weren't you the one who wrote "I do believe that our schooling and especially the use of the English language was far superior than is taught in schools today"?

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    Re: I`ve got a problem with *have got*

    Quote Originally Posted by Esprit View Post
    "What do you say when I would say, "My boss invited my wife and me to dinner last week".

    I would say that it is bad English to say my wife and me, surely it should be my wife and I, but there again, what do I know.
    Getting "me" and "I" mixed up seems to be a regular occurrence no matter when one was educated. I learnt a simple rule at school - if you can remove the other party from the equation and it's still correct, then it's correct.

    "My boss invited my wife and me to dinner."
    Now remove "my wife and". You are left with:
    My boss invited me to dinner.
    That is, I'm sure you will agree, correct.

    My boss invited my wife and I to dinner.
    Now remove "my wife and". You are left with:
    My boss invited I to dinner.
    I am 100% certain you don't think that's correct.
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