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    hai there, just a bit curiouse regarding this sentence :-

    "i want to meet all my friends whenever you guys right now".


    My qusestion is, by placing the word "guys" in the sentense,dont all of u think that it is more informal or ungrammartical? i do prefer to replace it with "they- 3rd dexis. if u might think that the sentence has more that 1 error - as i have highlighted or if i'm wrong do correct me (which i think it is wrong). If u have any explaination, do address ur explainations by addressing the any related topic that i should look into.(so easy 4 me to do my revision frm any grammar book for further purpose)
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    Default Re: explicit explaination-urgent

    Welcome, JD.

    But . . . the following example sentence is ungrammatical.

    "i want to meet all my friends *whenever you guys right now".

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    Default Re: explicit explaination-urgent

    hai there..thanks 4 the reply..
    but i need an explicit explainantion. hope u can give me more indeep information regarding the ungrammatical sentence

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    Default Re: explicit explaination-urgent

    Whenever = every/any time, so it doesn't go with 'right now'. The reference to 'you guys' is incomplete- it doesn't fit with the first half of the sentence, and is, therefore, meaningless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    Whenever = every/any time, so it doesn't go with 'right now'. The reference to 'you guys' is incomplete- it doesn't fit with the first half of the sentence, and is, therefore, meaningless.
    my quest: so if i write: i want to meet all my friends, where ever they are ( it seems to be more correct that the privious sentence).
    How about "you guys"? does the word "you" fix with the word "guys" within a sentence?-Because there is 2 nouns in the sentence.( if both words are fix to each other, so in what term( from the view of syntax) they are considered as a correct combination?
    However, it can be nice if i write : you guys are cool.
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    Default Re: explicit explaination-urgent

    I want to meet all my friends, wherever they are (You could say 'wherever they are right now' too)
    You guys are cool

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    Default Re: explicit explaination-urgent

    Additionally, the problem is three, maybe even four-fold.

    First, it needs a verb:

    [1] . . . wherever you guys are right now.

    Second, "you guys" and "my friends" rename each other,

    [2] You guys are my friends.
    [3] My friends, you guys here at the table, are paying the bill!

    In [2], "my friends" renames the subject "You guys", and in [3] "you guys" renames the subject "My friends".

    But . . . as a referent, "my friends" is not compatible with the 2nd person pronoun "you". "My friends" takes the 3rd person plural pronoun "they",

    [3] I want to meet my friends, wherever they are right now.

    Third, "you" is proximinal. If I am speaking to you, you are near me. Given our example sentence, "my friends" are not near me: "I want to meet them, wherever they are right now."


    Does that help?

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