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    Question Passive Voice??

    Hi everyone,

    I have a question regarding to passive voice.

    For example,

    The door opened.

    A valley enclosed by tall mountains.


    These are passive sentences, aren't they? But why did we not say "The door (verb to be) opened" and the same thing with the second example.

    Why is it deleted? What is the difference if we say: ​The door is opened & A valley is enclosed by tall mountains. Do they have the same meaning with previous examples?

    What do we call this kind of cases? & When do we use it?

    Thank you in advance,

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    Default Re: Passive Voice??

    Quote Originally Posted by white.rose View Post
    Hi everyone,

    I have a question regarding to passive voice.

    For example,

    The door opened.

    A valley enclosed by tall mountains.


    These are passive sentences, aren't they? But why did we not say "The door (verb to be) opened" and the same thing with the second example.

    Why is it deleted? What is the difference if we say: ​The door is opened & A valley is enclosed by tall mountains. Do they have the same meaning with previous examples?

    What do we call this kind of cases? & When do we use it?

    Thank you in advance,
    Neither of your offerings have anything to do with passive voice.

    Your first is a sentence in the simple past tense. Passive voice would be "The door was opened."
    Your second is a phrase with a participial adjectival phrase modifying the noun "valley".

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    Default Re: Passive Voice??

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    Neither of your offerings have anything to do with passive voice.

    Your first is a sentence in the simple past tense. Passive voice would be "The door was opened."
    Your second is a phrase with a participial adjectival phrase modifying the noun "valley".
    But the door of course didn't open itself, someone must open it. Actually, I didn't get it (the meaning of this sentence). I know it is silly, but I'm not a native speaker "^^, same thing with the second sentence. Can you give me another examples? What do you mean by a participial adjectival phrase?

    Thank you,

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    Default Re: Passive Voice??

    Quote Originally Posted by white.rose View Post
    But the door of course didn't open itself, someone must open it. Actually, I didn't get it (the meaning of this sentence). I know it is silly, but I'm not a native speaker "^^, same thing with the second sentence. Can you give me another examples? What do you mean by a participial adjectival phrase?

    Thank you,
    Of course the door doesn't open by itself. But that is not a grammar issue. Passive voice implies that there was an agent. The door was opened by Michael. That is passive voice. The door opened is not.

    As for the other, try Google and see what you get.

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