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    Hallo, I'd like to ask you a question about using would in particular situation. Here is some background: (its from a detective movie)

    An investigator comes to a crime scene and see a corpse lying on the floor, he is observing the place and calling for FBI agent.

    He is asking him: John, you would classify this as robbery an murder, wouldn't you? - Yes. - You would be wrong.

    So the question is what "would" means? Can we use "would" for deduction? For me it looks like deduction or an opinion.

    And in the third sentence? Does it mean possibility? But it seems to be quite solid.

    I hope, you could help me to understand this situation:)

    Best regards, Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by monnzz View Post
    Hallo, I'd like to ask you a question about using would in particular situation. Here is some background (it's from a detective movie):

    An investigator comes to a crime scene and sees a corpse lying on the floor. He is observing the place and calling for FBI agent.

    He is asking ​asks him: John, you would classify this as robbery and murder, wouldn't you? - Yes. - You would be wrong.
    John, if I asked you to classify this crime, you would say it was a "robbery and murder", wouldn't you?
    Yes.
    If you said that, you would be wrong.


    So the question is what "would" means? Can we use "would" for deduction? For me it looks like deduction or an opinion.
    The first speaker is making an assumption as to the second person's opinion on what type of crime it is.

    And in the third sentence? Does it mean possibility? But it seems to be quite solid.
    It doesn't mean possibility here. The speaker is saying that if the person said "robbery and murder", they would be wrong. The speaker is quite certain that it is a different type of crime that they are dealing with.

    I hope, you could help me to understand this situation:)

    Best regards, Mike
    See above. Quite frequently in English, you have to mentally add in some "if" words when dealing with "would" etc. I don't know whether you have studied the conditionals using "if" yet. If you have not, then this will be quite confusing for you.
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    Default Re: Meaning of would

    Thanks a lot:) Yes, I've studied conditionals, but I didn't know that we could assume something using "would":) So now its clear to me:)

    But could I say it this way, for example:

    John, I suppose you're going to classify it as robbery and murder, aren't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by monnzz View Post
    Thanks a lot:) Yes, I've studied conditionals, but i didn't know that we could assume something using "would":) So now its clear to me:)

    But could i say it this way, for example:

    John, I suppose, you're going to classify it as robbery and murder, aren't you?
    That's fine if you remove the comma after "suppose".

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    Default Re: Meaning of would

    And your post would be much better if you remembered to capitalise the word "I" every time you type it.
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    Sorry! Now it looks much better!
    Hehe, done!
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    Quote Originally Posted by monnzz View Post
    Sorry:) Now it looks much better:)
    And that would look much better with full stops instead of ':)'.

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    Default Re: Meaning of would

    Guys, one more question if you don't mind. If situation looks like this, imagine a person who is trying to break his table, and another person saying:

    - If you trying to get rid of your table it would be easier to throw it away.

    So the question is: is the person expressing his opinion by "would"?

    Because as far as i know, you can't mix 1st and 2nd conditionals.

    Am I right? Sorry for bothering you so much, but sometimes its really confusing.

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