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    Can 'dear' be considered as a title? So it must be capitalized for D?

    For example when I want to start writing a formal letter if I like to start with 'hello':
    Hello Dear Sir. Bahrami,
    OR
    Hello dear Sir. Bahrami,

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    Quote Originally Posted by atabitaraf View Post
    Can 'dear' be considered as a title? So it must be capitalized for D?

    For example when I want to start writing a formal letter if I like to start with 'hello':
    Hello Dear Sir. Bahrami,
    OR
    Hello dear Sir. Bahrami,
    You should capitalise "Dear" but that is because it should be the first word of the greeting. We don't start letters like this with "Hello".

    Dear Sir Bahrami

    I am writing to you because ...
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    You should capitalise "Dear" but that is because it should be the first word of the greeting. We don't start letters like this with "Hello".

    Dear Sir Bahrami

    I am writing to you because ...
    So if I am to write dear Bahrami at the middle of my sentence it is not capitalized. Am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by atabitaraf View Post
    So if I am to write dear Bahrami at the middle of my sentence it is not capitalized. Am I right?
    Can you give an example of how you would include "dear Bahrami" in the middle of a sentence? You said this is a formal letter. Using "dear" as an endearment in a formal letter to someone who you have said holds the title "Sir" (not just "Mr") seems rather odd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    Can you give an example of how you would include "dear Bahrami" in the middle of a sentence? You said this is a formal letter. Using "dear" as an endearment in a formal letter to someone who you have said holds the title "Sir" (not just "Mr") seems rather odd.
    I have only two options: 'Hello dear Mr. Bahrami' and 'Hello Dear Mr. Bahrami'
    You know we usually start greeting and salutations with hello. Please consider this as an obligation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atabitaraf View Post
    I have only two options: 'Hello dear Mr. Bahrami' and 'Hello Dear Mr. Bahrami'
    You know we usually start greeting and salutations with hello. Please consider this as an obligation.
    Who is obliging you to start a salutation with a "hello"? You have already been told this is not the way English speakers write.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atabitaraf View Post
    I have only two options: 'Hello dear Mr. Bahrami' and 'Hello Dear Mr. Bahrami'
    You know we usually start greeting and salutations with hello. Please consider this as an obligation.
    If you are going to start your letter with the four words "Hello", "dear", "Mr" and "Bahrami", then I can't advise you any further. That would not be the way any English speaker would start a letter so if you choose to go ahead, then you might as well just choose any combination of words and capitalisation you like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    Who is obliging you to start a salutation with a "hello"? You have already been told this is not the way English speakers write.
    This multiple choice question here which is not made by native people. Thanks every one however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atabitaraf View Post
    This multiple choice question here which is not made by native people. Thanks every one however.
    Was this homework?
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    Was this homework?
    No, I am a teacher and we sometimes discuss non-native-made questions to find it out whether they are possible in English or not.
    As I mentioned before greeting or salutations starting with Salaam is usual in our local culture and we consider hello as the translation of it, so it makes sense to say 'Hello my dear friend Mr. Bahrami' here.
    Furthermore I didn't find any grammar error in it.

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