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    Default Re: Paired Conjunction: either -- or

    Quote Originally Posted by atabitaraf View Post
    I should mention that the sentence No. 1, which is under discussion here, is from one of the advanced references we use here for our ESL classes.
    SUMMIT by Joan Saslow and Allen Ascher
    Yes, you should indeed. In fact, you should have probably stated that in your first post, IMO.
    Please be aware that I'm neither a native English speaker nor a teacher.

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    Default Re: Paired Conjunction: either -- or

    Quote Originally Posted by charliedeut View Post
    Yes, you should indeed. In fact, you should have probably stated that in your first post, IMO.
    Thanks, and I believe the teachers here are more reliable or at least at the same level as the authors of our books. Since there is a free discussion among several precious native professors here so I rely more on their opinions.

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    Default Re: Paired Conjunction: either -- or

    I'm not trying to tell you whose opinions you must accept. I was just pointing out that everyone is expected to acknowledge the sources of their phrases/sentences/texts if they are quoting. No more, no less.
    Please be aware that I'm neither a native English speaker nor a teacher.

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    Default Re: Paired Conjunction: either -- or

    Quote Originally Posted by atabitaraf View Post
    I should mention that the sentence No. 1, which is under discussion here, is from one of the advanced references we use here for our ESL classes.
    SUMMIT by Joan Saslow and Allen Ascher
    Then they deserve a very big slap on the wrists!

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    Default Re: Paired Conjunction: either -- or

    Quote Originally Posted by philo2009 View Post
    1 is incorrect (representing ungrammatical *Smoking should be banned or smoking should restricted.)
    3 is correct but needlessly wordy.

    Hence #2 is best.
    I think there is a pretty general consensus among teachers here that we take a descriptive rather than a presciptive approach to teaching ESL.

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    Default Re: Paired Conjunction: either -- or

    If that is an excuse for recommending structures that no careful user would accept, then so be it!

    I have fully answered the original question and have nothing further to add.

    EOC

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    Default Re: Paired Conjunction: either -- or

    Quote Originally Posted by philo2009 View Post
    If that is an excuse for recommending structures that no careful user would accept, then so be it!
    It seems that your definition of 'careful user' would be along the lines of 'person who does not use constructions philo disapproves of of which philo disapproves'.
    Please do not edit your question after it has received a response. Such editing can make the response hard for others to understand.


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    Default Re: Paired Conjunction: either -- or

    Quote Originally Posted by philo2009 View Post
    I have fully answered the original question and have nothing further to add.

    EOC
    If only.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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