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    Question Chaac

    Hi, teachers, language lover.
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    "We’re not mad at God — at least no madder than the Pope is at Chaac, the Mayan god of rain — and though some atheists arrive at their disbelief after something bad happened to them, that’s not the most common path."

    I can understand the meaning, but why Pope is mad about Chaac?

    Thank you in advance

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    Re: Chaac

    He's not. And they (the atheists) are similarly not mad at God.
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 26-Jul-2013 at 21:48. Reason: Typo correction

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    Re: Chaac

    They are atheists, so fond of good as the Roman Pontiff of Chaac.
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    Re: Chaac

    Quote Originally Posted by José Manuel Rosón Bravo View Post
    They are atheists, so fond of good as the Roman Pontiff of Chaac.
    That doesn't make any sense.

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    Re: Chaac

    Ironically speaking.

    I mean that atheists are not upset with or even concerned about God, as in the case of the Pope and the Mayan god of rain.
    José Manuel Rosón Bravo

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    Re: Chaac

    Just a case of belief or disbelief motivated by their personal convictions, experiences, background, etc., and not that they hate God and Chaac.
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    Re: Chaac

    A Catholic Pope does not believe in Mayan gods, so he's obviously not angry at him. You can't be angry at something you don't think exists. An atheist doesn't believe in God, so, similarly, an atheist cannot be mad at this non-existent being.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Chaac

    The text expresses the idea of atheism as something that has nothing to do with being mad at God, pointing out the fact that the arriving at this way of thinking after some tragic event or loss is not the usual path to becoming an atheist.
    José Manuel Rosón Bravo

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    Re: Chaac

    Quote Originally Posted by José Manuel Rosón Bravo View Post
    The text expresses the idea of atheism as something that has nothing to do with being mad at God, pointing out the fact that the arriving at this way of thinking after some tragic event or loss is not the usual path to becoming an atheist.
    Some atheists used to believe in a god. Sometimes, a bad event in their life makes them question and then disbelieve the existence of that god - frequently because they cannot believe that any god would allow something so terrible to happen. So those people have gone from being believers to being atheists. However, the piece says that that is not the most common reason for atheists being atheists.
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Re: Chaac

    Yes, not the usual path to atheism, as the way to say that atheists are not usually mad at or angry with God. Just a question of personal belief.
    José Manuel Rosón Bravo

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