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    Default Re: 'Where do we go now'? - why is this sentence in Present Simple?

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    But what about rules? :) What about logic? :) I know that using any language is to some extent very intuitive but the more often I speak English the more often I am confused.
    English is tough. And "rules'will not always solve your problems. See Soothing Dave's comments. We have both tried to explain the logic of the construction.

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    Default Re: 'Where do we go now'? - why is this sentence in Present Simple?

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    There is a different sense here. "What do we do now?" is a plea more than a question. It is about knowing that we don't know what to do.

    Say you walk out of a shop and your car is missing. You're miles from home and your phone was in your car.

    You don't ask "what are we doing now?"

    You ask "What do we do now?"
    Oh my goodness, so it's rather a plea. Looking for answers in grammar books doesn't always make sense, they seem to be incomplete :)

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    English is tough. And "rules'will not always solve your problems. See Soothing Dave's comments. We have both tried to explain the logic of the construction.
    Thank you Mike :) You and Soothing Dave have done your best to explain the problem to me :) I really appreciate your help. I wish English was less tough. To be honest I don't find it fun any more. What a shame ...

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    Thank you Mike :) You and Soothing Dave have done your best to explain the problem to me :) I really appreciate your help. I wish English was less tough. To be honest I don't find it fun any more. What a shame ...
    All languages are difficult to learn.

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    Thank you Mike :) You and Soothing Dave have done your best to explain the problem to me :) I really appreciate your help. I wish English was less tough. To be honest I don't find it fun any more. What a shame ...
    Keep working at it, marker. You will get better each day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    Keep working at it, marker. You will get better each day.
    I hope so :)

    I've reached the stage at which I know most of the rules of English grammar but as I'm discovering more and more exceptions to them, I'm getting a little bit frustrated and discouraged :)


    Sorry for being off-topic.

    Good night :)

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    Default Re: 'Where do we go now'? - why is this sentence in Present Simple?

    A thought:

    'Where are we going now' can suggest:
    1. a previous arrangement has been made.

    'Where do we go now can suggest:
    2. In such situations as this, what do we normally do?
    3. What is on the scheduled programme at this point?

    Note that it is rather difficult to find a real difference in meaning between #1 and #3. Course books and student grammars that try to explain the difference between the various tenses and aspects generally do a reasonably good job, but there are situations in which two or more tenses/aspects could be appropriate. The one chosen just happens to fit what is in the speaker's moment at the time of uttering it.

    There is also the point that song writers are often more interested in the flow of sounds than in the pedant's view of what tense should be used in a classroom situation.

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