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    Shock!

    Hello, usingenglish friends!

    My question is about the vowel sound in the word "shock". When you say this word, is the vowel sound the same as the one we find in "saw" (/sɔ:/)?

    Thank you!
    Last edited by Carolina1983; 14-Aug-2013 at 13:40. Reason: Clarity

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    Re: Shock!

    It's the same as in "hot": /hɒt/.
    Please be aware that I'm neither a native English speaker nor a teacher.

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    Re: Shock!

    Quote Originally Posted by charliedeut View Post
    It's the same as in "hot": /hɒt/.
    Thatīs what the dic. says, right? I think americans tend to use - or use actually - the vowel sound in saw, instead of the a:
    Last edited by Carolina1983; 14-Aug-2013 at 13:50. Reason: Clarity

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    I think you are correct about the sounds in AmE Carolina1983. I also think that if a question pertains to one dialect exclusively you should say so up front.

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    Re: Shock!

    Quote Originally Posted by probus View Post
    I think you are correct about the sounds in AmE Carolina1983. I also think that if a question pertains to one dialect exclusively you should say so up front.
    I was wondering why all dictionaries say otherwise, probus! They say ɔ: will sound like a:. Isnīt that weird?! Itīs exactly the opposite! What do you think? Iīm sorry I didnīt mention the dialect thing upfront. It didnīt occur to me I wasnīt being clear enough.

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    Re: Shock!

    Quote Originally Posted by Carolina1983 View Post
    They say ɔ: will sound like a:
    As far as I know, no dictionary says that /ɔ:/ will sound like /a:/. With each dictionary, you have to look carefully at what phonemic symbols they use to represent what sounds, and also at which variety of English pronunciation the dictionary is noting.

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    Re: Shock!

    Quote Originally Posted by Carolina1983 View Post
    I was wondering why all dictionaries say otherwise, probus! They say ɔ: will sound like a:. Isnīt that weird?! Itīs exactly the opposite! What do you think? Iīm sorry I didnīt mention the dialect thing upfront. It didnīt occur to me I wasnīt being clear enough.

    I haven't even consulted a dictionary. I'm simply relying on my ears and my memory.

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    Re: Shock!

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    As far as I know, no dictionary says that /ɔ:/ will sound like /a:/. With each dictionary, you have to look carefully at what phonemic symbols they use to represent what sounds, and also at which variety of English pronunciation the dictionary is noting.
    Yes, thatīs what I meant 5jj. American dictionaries, OAA for instance, will say that, in some parts of the US, speakers will use a: instead of ɔ:. I was the one who heard otherwise, I mean, I constantly hear native speakers say ɔ: where, supposedly, theyīd say a:.

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    Quote Originally Posted by probus View Post
    I haven't even consulted a dictionary. I'm simply relying on my ears and my memory.
    LOL me too!
    Except I am not a native :)

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    Re: Shock!

    I'm American, and yes, the people I know pronounce the vowel sound in "shock" the same way as in both "hot" and "saw." "Hawt" and "shawk" and so forth. But if I used my terrible British accent, I would pronounce "shock" and "hot" both with shorter vowel sounds than "saw."

    Hope this helps!

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