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    Default Nick said not to ask how the meeting had gone.

    Write each sentence in indirect speech.

    Direct = Nick said, “Please don’t ask how the meeting went.”
    Indirect = Nick said not to ask how the meeting had gone.

    Source: Summit 2B (by Joan Saslo and Allen Ascher) Pearson
    Longman Press, Unit 8, Direct and Indirect Speeches
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    Can we change the blue one into "Went" or it will be incorrect?

    Thank you.

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    Default Re: Nick said not to ask how the meeting had gone.

    Quote Originally Posted by sb70012 View Post
    Write each sentence in indirect speech.

    Direct = Nick said, “Please don’t ask how the meeting went.”
    Indirect = Nick said not to ask how the meeting had gone.

    Source: Summit 2B (by Joan Saslo and Allen Ascher) Pearson
    Longman Press, Unit 8, Direct and Indirect Speeches
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    Hello teachers,

    Can we change the blue one into "Went" or it will be incorrect?

    Thank you.
    No.

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    Default Re: Nick said not to ask how the meeting had gone.

    I don't fine using "went" that strange if the utterance was just a few moments ago. As I said in a different post, I don't think it's quite as "required" to back shift from past to past perfect as it is from present to simple past.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Default Re: Nick said not to ask how the meeting had gone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    I don't fine using "went" that strange if the utterance was just a few moments ago. As I said in a different post, I don't think it's quite as "required" to back shift from past to past perfect as it is from present to simple past.
    "Went" was correct if there was a "Just" in the Direct speech.
    I mean if it was "Nick just said...." it would be correct to use both "went" or "had gone"
    But in post #1 I think only "had gone" fits well.

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    Default Re: Nick said not to ask how the meeting had gone.

    Quote Originally Posted by sb70012 View Post
    "Went" was correct if there was a "Just" in the Direct speech.
    I mean if it was "Nick just said...." it would be correct to use both "went" or "had gone"
    But in post #1 I think only "had gone" fits well.
    There is absolutely nothing wrong with the past perfect in that example. The question is whether it is necessary.

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    Default Re: Nick said not to ask how the meeting had gone.

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    There is absolutely nothing wrong with the past perfect in that example. The question is whether it is necessary.
    Yeah I know and I accept that past perfect fits well in there. I just wanted to say that according to the explanations given in post #4 "went" can not work in there. Do you agree with me?

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    Default Re: Nick said not to ask how the meeting had gone.

    Quote Originally Posted by sb70012 View Post
    Yeah I know and I accept that past perfect fits well in there. I just wanted to say that according to the explanations given in post #4 "went" can not work in there. Do you agree with me?
    No, I don't agree. In AmE, "went" is perfectly fine. Others may disagree.

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