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    Default The Italians are said to be the most passionate people in Europe.

    Hi teachers,

    "The Italians are said to be the most passionate people in Europe." In this context, does "said" mean "called"?


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    Default Re: The Italians are said to be the most passionate people in Europe.

    No, you can't used called in that construction. You could say "The Italians are called the most passionate people in Europe" (omit the to be) but even that is not perfectly natural.

    It is said the the Italians are...
    People say the Italians are ...
    Italians are considered to be ...

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    Default Re: The Italians are said to be the most passionate people in Europe.

    I did mean "known" not "called". I made a mistake. I got it in my dictionary. I just want to know if "said" means "known", like "The Italians are known as to be the most passionate people in Europe.". I asked this because I am not that much familiar with this kind of pattern, i.e. "The Italians are said to be the most passionate people in Europe.". I think now I got it. I can also write that sentence as "It is said that the Italians are known as/called the most passionate people in Europe.".
    Last edited by Rover_KE; 27-Sep-2013 at 11:49. Reason: Deleting potentially offensive and unnecessary expletive.

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    Default Re: The Italians are said to be the most passionate people in Europe.

    Quote Originally Posted by kite View Post
    I can also write that sentence as "It is said that the Italians are known as/called the most passionate people in Europe.".
    No. People say / It is said (that) the Italians are the most passionate people in the world, as probus suggested.
    Please do not edit your question after it has received a response. Such editing can make the response hard for others to understand.


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    Default Re: The Italians are said to be the most passionate people in Europe.

    Saying something and knowing it are two different things.
    "Rolf Harris is said to be a paedophile" and "Rolf Harris is known to be a paedophile" are different statements. The first is certainly true (by some), while the second might not be.

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    Default Re: The Italians are said to be the most passionate people in Europe.

    I got it now. Raymott's answer was more helpful and also others' too. I am sorry for using potentially offensive and unnecessary expletive words.


    Just a simple question.
    Am I right that I said "I am sorry for ....." or should I say "I am sorry about ....."?

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    Default Re: The Italians are said to be the most passionate people in Europe.

    In that sentence, 'I am sorry for...' is correct.

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